[johnforbes]

Long before ex-convict Ron Karenga made up Kwanzaa, Kamala was celebrating it.

Remember, when asked as a little child what she wanted, she said "Fweedom."

[Clownkicker]

johnny, why are you making us stupid shit again?

What do you have against reality?

[johnforbes]

Karenga kidnapped two women. A black military and convict, he made up Kwanzaa.

In the Forum's own Chrismas tradition Kwazzy, I shall light a candle to help Clownslacker.

[Clownkicker]

What does any of that nonsense have to do with your initial lie about Harris, dimwit?

[johnforbes]

Because we know when the criminal Karenga made up Kwanzaa.

And we know when Kamala was a kid.

She indeed said she had celebrated Kwanzaa from when she was tiny, and that was yet another lie from her.

[Clownkicker]

You don't know jack shit, turd brain.

Harris was two years old when Kwanzaa was started, dimwit. Three or four years old IS "tiny" and "a kid," you imbecile.

How does an ignoramus like you even manage to walk around in the world? It's amazing you can even stand up.

[johnforbes]

She did not celebrate Kwanzaa for any number of reasons, including the fact that the criminal Karenga had just made it up and the Left had not yet had time to circulate that particular bit of lunacy to Canada.

But here is the positive note:

Every year, late in December, I do light a candle and pray during my Festivus celebration that Clownslacker will repent his wrongheaded ways and point his future self toward the light of reason as indicated in the syncytial sagacity of my posts.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, the fact that you can make up some stupid shit about someone does not mean that stupid shit is true just because you can't imagine any other reality. That merely reflects on your limited partisan imagination and nothing else.

The actual fact is that you don't know jack shit about whatever Harris did or didn't do as a child.


You'll be glad to know that I do repent of ever trying to talk to you as though you were a reasonable, rational human before learning you are just another partisan turd.

I'll never make that mistake again, johnny.

[johnforbes]

We do know because Kamala has tried to make up many aspects of her past.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, what does any of that bullshit (notice there were no facts about Harris included in the video. There were facts about other people instead) have to do with your initial lie about Harris? "Long before ex-convict Ron Karenga made up Kwanzaa, Kamala was celebrating it."-johnfibs

I noticed you refused to address your lie because you are embarrassed to be caught lying, so you reverted to the standard Republican playbook of pathetic diversions and unsupported innuendo.

[johnforbes]

Not at all.

Kamala did lie about having celebrated Kwanzaa before it even existed, and she also got caught in a lie claiming she had said as an infant she wanted "fweedom."

She is a content-free person, and was the first Dem to drop out as a presidential candidate because nobody liked her.

She was apparently only chosen for race and gender, but she has Jamaica-India heritage and is not "black."

Her grandfather in Jamaica owned slaves, but mine didn't.

Clown's grandfather also didn't own slaves.

[Clownkicker]

"Kamala did lie about having celebrated Kwanzaa before it even existed,..."-johnfibs

johnny, merely repeating your lie is not a refutation of anything. You simply made it up and expect people to believe you. Unfortunately for you, only dimwits who swallow shit without any evidence believe your claim.

Of course, no one, including Harris, claims to have celebrated anything before the age of three. Very few people even remember that age.

So unless you can produce a soundbite or article quoting her saying she celebrated Kwanzaa when she was one year old, then stop lying with your made up stupid shit.

I will take your inability to produce that evidence as an admission that you were lying about it.

[johnforbes]

It is a very well known and was widely reported.

It is one of the many fairy tales in the cavalcade of blather surrounding the first affirmative action VP.

In other news, Clowntoker is peparing for NY Eve and, when he talks about waiting for the ball to drop, it has a whole new meaning we will avoid in this fine forum.

[Clownkicker]

I would like to thank johnforbes for finally admitting that he lied about the nonexistent evidence about Harris which he couldn't produce.

With a bit more schooling of johnforbes on my part, he will soon be able to enter a court of law and argue a case before a judge with evidence and cited precedents without making a fool of himself as he does now.

You're welcome, dimwit.

And no charge for the long-overdue education, johnny.

[johnforbes]

Kamala said her family “would gather around across multiple generations” to celebrate Kwanzaa.

She was born in 1964, but Kwanzaa was not made up by Ron Karenga (a criminal who kidnapped and tortured) until 1966.

So her comment was very, very, very unlikely particularly for her parents and grandparents, but let's see photos proving it.

There won't be any plethora of childhood photos re that, nor did she say "Fweedom", nor is she black, nor was she popular as a Dem nominee.

In short, she has been as unpoular as a politician as Clowntoker has been on this fine forum.

[Clownkicker]

"Kamala said her family “would gather around across multiple generations” to celebrate Kwanzaa.
So her comment was very, very, very unlikely particularly for her parents and grandparents,..."-johnflubs

johnny, your lack of evidence is not evidence, dimwit. Any judge will tell you that. That's why you could never cut it in court. You just don't grasp the concept of proof.
Next you need to provide some reason--ANY reason at all-- that her family wouldn't have celebrated Kwanzaa over her life. It sounds quite likely that her comment is true. Why you, in your gross ignorance of her childhood, believe you know jack shit about her family life is mind boggling. The judge rules you a purely partisan dimwit.

"There won't be any plethora of childhood photos re that, [Nobody expects or cares whether the family took pictures, dimwit. Mine didn't, why should hers?] nor did she say "Fweedom", [Nobody cares, dimwit. Your own video said it was a King story that had someone saying "Fweedom" not Harris' story. The video claimed she claimed to have said "Feedom" but provided no evidence to support she claimed it] nor is she black, [of course she is black, you moron. No one disputes it. Only ignorant partisan turds believe she isn't black, just as purely partisan turds are the only ones who believe Obama wasn't born in the U.S.] nor was she popular as a Dem nominee.[Nobody cares if she was "popular as a Dem noninee", dimwit. What does that have to do with Kwanzaa or her claim that she celebrated it? You don't get to just lie about someone because you happen to be ignorant on a subject.]"-dishonestjohn

It's always made up stupid shit with johnforbes. He can't provide evidence for any of his silly beliefs so he relies on partisan ad hominem attacks and innuendo targeting the mentally challenged who can't see through his unsupported stupidity.



Incidentally, I include this for the truly ignorant out there because if I don't I will have to listen to ignorant morons continue to whine about it. (Read johnforbes and other dishonest partisans)

"Several experts told us that the implication that Jamaicans aren't African or connected to Africa is wrong on its face.
According to a 2011 census, 92.1% of Jamaicans are Black, with genetic studies showing that the vast majority are descendants of people from sub-Saharan Africa.

"Jamaica is a country where more than 90% of the population is of African ancestry," said Judith Byfield, a professor at Cornell University who teaches Caribbean and African history. "So the idea that because her dad is Jamaican she has no African ancestry is completely false.""-Politifact

[johnforbes]

My fairness is the stuff of legend.

Kamala said her family “would gather around across multiple generations” to celebrate Kwanzaa.

She was born in 1964, but Kwanzaa was not made up by Ron Karenga (a criminal who kidnapped and tortured) until 1966.

So her comment was very, very, very unlikely particularly for her parents and grandparents, but let's see photos and videos of little Kamala proving it.

[Clownkicker]

So what you are telling us is that Harris only had from 1966 to, say, 1984 to have her story be true.

Why do you find it "very, very, very unlikely" that her family celebrated Kwanzaa at some time over an 18-year span, dimwit? That's just stupid.

Just how alienated from reality and your family are you that you can't conceive of a common family story becoming true over an eighteen year span of time? It seems quite 'likely' to me. It happens all the time to families. At least to families that aren't yours, I guess.

The fact is, you simply don't WANT to believe it's true so you don't, for no reason at all. You have no facts or evidence to support your chosen belief, but that doesn't concern you in the least. It never does.

As with every other idiotic belief you hold about anything, it is simply your proclivity for wishful thinking that makes you believe something. Just as you "wish" and "want" COVID to simply go away so you can forgive Trump's incompetence and negligence in doing nothing to stop the pandemic when he had the chance. So too you "want" Harris' story to be false. There's no particular reason it should be false. You just "want" it to be false, and that is enough for you.

Why don't you stop listening to partisan hate sites that focus on bread-and-circuses for dimwits and instead start to worry about the admissions from some of the Proud Boys that they (on the direction of Trump) conspired to violently stop the certification of the last presidential election? That is something that actually matters to every American, unlike your pathetic, unsupported gossip from partisan hacks.

It's pretty revealing that the only things you can fault Harris and Biden for are plagiarism. That's because you can't fault them for working to reduce poverty, reduce illness, build infrastructure, protect children, reduce new unemployment to the lowest levels in 50 years, and all the other things they are trying to do. But johnforbes is busy pissing his pants over some silly story no one cares about, whether it's true or false.

You shouldn't constantly submerge yourself in partisan hate, johnny. You know where that gets you. And if you don't know it yet, then go ask your wife what she thinks about you frittering away your time with such nonsense and where it has gotten you.

Try starting a thread about something that actually matters to America, dummy.

[johnforbes]

Well, there is no question that almost all politicians are almost always telling lies.

It is also true that it is very, very, very unlikely that Kamala was telling the truth with her Kwanzaa virtue signal attempt.

However, my fairness is almost as legendary as my good looks, so I pledge to look at any and all pics and videos showing little Kamala and her parents and grandparents purportedly celebrating criminal Karenga's made-up "holiday."

[Clownkicker]

Once again johnfibs admits he has no evidence whatsoever to back up his lie alleging Harris claimed to remember having celebrated Kwanzaa when she one or two years old. All he has is his incredulity, which, given his documented hypocrisy and ignorance, is not evidence of anything beyond his mental limitations.

In other words, he just admitted he made it up.

Until dimwit johnny can produce some evidence to support his idiotic claim, his "very, very, very" limited imagination is not evidence of anything whatsoever.

What is incredulous is that johnforbes starts these moronic threads about his pathetic fantasy world when there are real problems facing this nation. Not least among them is that tax-cheat and would-be Banana Republic dictator Trump may run for President again and give his conspiratorial militia groups marching orders again.

At least insane Taylor Greene has been kicked off Twitter, slightly reducing the loads of Republican lies drifting around in the ether. That's something at least.

[johnforbes]

Well no, what I admit is that I'm awaiting any evidence to support the outlandish claim.

Perhaps there is some evidence that Kamela didn't steal the "fweedom" story from others, but that also falls into the Highly Dubious category.

Face it, she was the first Dem presidential nominee to withdraw because nobody -- Dem or Repub -- liked her.

She is even less popular than Senile Joe, who has the border wide open in an era of pandemic and terrorism.

[Clownkicker]

"Well no, what I admit is that I'm awaiting any evidence to support the outlandish claim."-dishonestjohn

Wait a minute... Harris has given you exactly as much evidence for her story as you have given for all of your stories.

I guess now you're telling us we shouldn't believe a word you post witho7ut some evidence to back up your claims, right?

After all, your claims are at LEAST as farfetched as Harris' claims.

So when do you stop squirming in your panties and back up your lie about Harris saying she celebrated Kwanzaa when she was one year old? You know, your claim that "Long before ex-convict Ron Karenga made up Kwanzaa, Kamala was celebrating it."-johnfibs

Of course, everyone (including you) knows she never made any such claim. Until you provide some evidence that she said that, ( you know, the evidence YOU demand of her) you're just another lying partisan sack of shit, johnny.

[johnforbes]

Because what I said was true.

There is no evidence whatever that Kamala, or her parents or grandparents even knew about Kwanzaa, which was back then in its early years because an ex-convict had made it up and the Left WIng had not had time to pretend it was real.

The most hilarious video of 2021 may have been Mayor Lightfoot and her wife/husband/whatever pretending they celebrated Kwanzaa when he/she/it happened to be one of those evil pale people.

[Clownkicker]

So you started this thread with a lie, ADMITTING you have no evidence whatsoever to support your opinion.

You're completely ignorant, as always, and proud of it.

.....another childish aspect that explains your voting Republican.

[johnforbes]

Given her many lies, it is highly doubtful that Kamala was telling the truth.

But, given my relentless sense of fairness -- not to mention my cheerful disposition, gleaming smile, and overall fitness -- I afforded Clownslacker and his ilk a full opportunity to furnish evidence in support of her assertions.

There is none.

Her parents and grandparents couldn't have celebrated this fake holiday made up by a criminal, and at the age of one or two it is highly doubtful that she was already hustling toward her race-baiting career.

In summary, Clown can't proffer any proof.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, Kwanzaa was started in 1966.

Harris lived with her family for the next 18 years or so after Kwanzaa was started.

What is so hard for you to grasp that the her family could have started celebrating Kwanzaa sometime in the next eighteen years?

Given your many lies, it is highly doubtful that you are telling the truth.

In all fairness, I am happy to ignore you on this until you furnish some shred of evidence to support your silly assertions about how someone can't start to celebrate a holiday in an 18 year time span.

In summary, johnpartisanfuckhead can't proffer any evidence whatsoever to support his partisan stupidity, let alone any proof to support it.

[johnforbes]

But is the question "could have"?

Politicians lie, and we all know that.

As an affirmative action candidate who had nothing to offer but her Jamaica/India background and her accident of gender, it is certainly reasonable to ask her to furnish proof of her very, very, very unlikely claim that she, her father, and grandparents celebrated this totally fake "holiday" made up by a criminal who kidnapped and tortured women?

[Clownkicker]

Yes, dummy, the question IS "could have" because it is completely irrelevant whether the story is true or not. Who cares? Nobody votes for someone just because the candidate celebrates Christmas or Hanukkah or Kwanzaa or the Winter Solstice. And even if you think they do, then the alleged vote gained by the association with Kwanzaa would be lost by another voter who doesn't believe the particular voodoo of a particular candidate. Claiming to celebrate Kwanzaa is far more likely to have put more voters off Harris than the number of voters she won over with the claim.

Take you for example. This silly anti-Harris thread by a dimwit upset at Harris for claiming to celebrate Kwanzaais is proof of my point. QED


"As an affirmative action candidate who had nothing to offer but her Jamaica/India background and her accident of gender,...;"-johnfibs

This is a flat out lie, dimwit. Everyone knows Harris was the Attorney General of California. She had a reputation for strong enforcement of the law.

You may think this is nothing, but it's not. It is far more qualification than Trump had in running for political office.

[johnforbes]

She favors open borders, and has complete contempt for the rule of law.

Throughout 2020, as BLM and Antifa looted and burned town after town across the country, Democrats approved.

Gov Wolf in PA even decided it was worth the risk of getting covid to march shoulder to shoulder with race-baiting BLM.

[Clownkicker]

What has any of that partisan bullshit got to do with your initial lie that started this thread, dimwit?

You were caught making up stupid shit....again.

Live with it.

[johnforbes]

No, Kamala was caught making up stupid tales (again).

There is no photo or video proof that Kamela, or her parents, or grandparents had a history of celebrating this made up holiday invented out of whole cloth by an ex-convict who kidnapped and tortured.

[Clownkicker]

And there is no proof that my family ever celebrated Christmas, dumbfuck. That proves nothing.

You're the one who always says that many things happened before the invention of the internet. And you admit you have no evidence that her story is not true. But you mystifyingly keep insisting it isn't true without any evidence.

All you find necessary to pass judgement on someone is your own incredulity, and you expect that to be enough for everyone else.

Thankfully, that isn't proof of anything in this country. If it were, you would be in jail because I find everything about you incredible. Your hypocrisy, your ignorance, your dishonesty, your alleged education that left you incapable of self-reflection or logical thinking, your lack of reasoning ability, and on and on.

If your incredulity is enough for you to believe Harris is lying, then my incredulity is sufficient to believe you are nothing more than a hypocritical partisan asshole and you must agree. (I know you secretly do.)

You have never provided a single photo to back up the nonsense you spew. That's the thing about you---you always expect others to do what you adamantly refuse to do.

[johnforbes]

It is a fair point that most of human history took place before the Worldwide Interwebs.

In my own youth, we had to walk 3 miles to school every day, and it was uphill both ways.

However, Kamala was our first real affirmative action VP -- a gal nobody liked, with even her former patron Willie Brown deriding her as opportunistic and "hairy."

Thus, to be fair -- as we always are -- Kamala must shoulder the burden of proving her tall tale about her father, grandfather, and her own young self celebrating Kwanzaa not too long after Karenga got out of prison and made it up out of whole cloth.

For myself, I am celebrating Irishzaa, which involves lighting green candles and praying to St Patrick.