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By johnforbes
#130591
"An independent panel has ruled that the World Health Organization, which in January 2020 suggested it was racist to impose border controls to stop the spread of COVID-19 , could have saved over 3 million lives if it had recommended travel restrictions earlier."
By Clownkicker
#130593
johnny, your inhuman position was at that time (and still is) to let the pandemic run unchecked to hasten the attainment of herd immunity at the cost of tens of millions of lives. You wanted free transmission of the virus in populations.

Your disgusting hypocrisy gives your 'reporting' of irrelevant positions by others gives you no credibility on this subject.
By johnforbes
#130596
What?

Nobody said that.

What the WHO did was pander to China, and -- as the experts concluded -- their inaction caused 3 million needless deaths.
By Clownkicker
#130599
What experts, johnny?

The Trump/Republican 'independent panel' investigation into the WHO? :/

Criminy, you'll fall for anything, won't you.


"What?
Nobody said that."-johnfibs

johnny, you criticized EVERY lockdown, mask mandate, and public health measure taken to fight the pandemic as a Democrat conspiracy. You supported Sweden's failure in the pandemic because they didn't lockdown and then had five times the cases of neighboring countries.

Just because you didn't say it in so many words (in keeping with your usual spineless nature) doesn't mean you didn't in fact say it with your unsupported arguments and disastrously untenable positions on the pandemic.
By johnforbes
#130604
According to the panel of experts, the WHO should have declared an international health emergency during their first meeting on January 22nd and imposed travel restrictions.

In late January 2020, despite declaring a global health emergency, the WHO released a statement explicitly advising against “any travel or trade restriction based on the current information available.”

“Countries are cautioned against actions that promote stigma or discrimination, in line with the principles of Article 3 of the IHR,” said the organization in a statement.

In other words, because the feelings of Chinese people may have been hurt, the WHO told countries not to impose border controls, despite evidence now proving that such measures stop the spread of COVID-19 more effectively than lockdowns.

As we also highlighted at the time, numerous politicians in America suggested throughout February that it was bigoted to advise against mass gatherings at Chinese new year festivals in major cities.

In Europe, authorities were even encouraging people to hug Chinese people as late as March under the guise of virtue signaling anti-racism campaigns.

In October last year, the New York Times reported that the WHO’s decision not to advise early border closures was based on “politics,” not science.

A Mount Sinai study found that New York City’s record-high coronavirus cases and deaths were “predominately” due to travel from Europe, meaning that many more lives could have been saved if borders had been closed down earlier.

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By Clownkicker
#130606
So why didn't Trump close off Europe when he closed of China, johnny? Europe was the greater danger.

Trump waited five weeks more when he claims he was convinced international travel was dangerous.

When are you going to criticize Trump for such incompetence, johnny?

Trump is apparently responsible for several million of those deaths.



"“Countries are cautioned against actions that promote stigma or discrimination, in line with the principles of Article 3 of the IHR,” said the organization in a statement."

This is still a true statement. Stigmatizing and discrimination of sick people is still wrong and counterproductive.


"In other words, because the feelings of Chinese people may have been hurt, the WHO told countries not to impose border controls, despite evidence now proving that such measures stop the spread of COVID-19 more effectively than lockdowns.-johnfibs

No, that is not the same thing "In other words" You made it up.

Additionally, banning international travel IS a lockdown, dimwit. You pretend you are against lockdowns as you call for earlier lockdowns.

What is wrong with you?
By johnforbes
#130610
No, actually it was travel from Wuhan to northern Italy which ended up ravaging Italy.

In retrospect, Trump should have closed off Europe earlier, but bear in mind that the WHO was still echoing the Chinese line that calling it a "China Virus" was racist.

A virus which came from China (surely a leak from the Wuhan virology lab which Fauci in a small way helped to fund) is a China virus. Tautology.

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