Political discussions about everything
By johnforbes
#125157
New audiotape reveals Biden did engage in a quid pro quo.

Prosecutor was investigating Burisma, and Hunter was on the board.
By Clownkicker
#125162
Nobody has ever denied Biden did a quid pro quo. Unlike Trump's self-serving quid pro quo to the detriment of national security, Biden's was perfectly legal and above board.

Yes, the prosecutor WAS investigating Burisma, and Hunter WAS on the board, but the prosecutor WAS NOT investigating Burisma's activities after Hunter joined the board; only those from before Biden's tenure.

johnfibs knows all this but keeps leaving out these relevant details like a good Trump-supporting partisan tool.
By johnforbes
#125166
Oh, come on, that was a billion dollars of taxpayer money.

And Biden needed the prosecutor fired so his son would not be charged.
By Clownkicker
#125187
^^^^^^ Criminy, dimwitted johnforbes is actually outraged that it would cost a billion dollars for Ukraine to take on the Russian military for us.

Every time he posts something stupid like that it only makes me question his alleged military service. No one who understood what defense costs against an adversary such as Russia would be even slightly fazed by that price tag.


"And Biden needed the prosecutor fired so his son would not be charged."-johnfibs

johnny, you're simply making that up. Stick to the facts.

Every government in Europe wanted the corrupt prosecutor fired, Biden or no Biden.

We were the only ones with sufficient leverage to do what all NATO countries wanted done.

johnfibs knows all this but keeps leaving out these relevant details like a good Trump-supporting partisan tool.
By johnforbes
#125193
Please, nobody in Ukraine would "take on" Russia for us.

The billion has surely already been wasted by dolts such as Vindman and his ilk.
By Clownkicker
#125205
"Please, nobody in Ukraine would "take on" Russia for us."-johnfibs

They already have, johnny.


"The billion has surely already been wasted by dolts such as Vindman and his ilk."-johnfibs

You know what they say about making assumptions, johnny. I know it holds in your case, whatever the truth is.
By johnforbes
#125207
Oh, be serious.

NATO presence in Europe for decades was a tripwire to halt Russia.

Ukraine wouldn't do a thing, and people like Yovanovitch and Vindman surely knew that but just hated Trump.

What precise use has Ukraine made of the 1 billion?
By elklindo69
#125216
So what did we get out of the Iraq war?

Thousands of dead US troops and a 2 trillon dollar price tag?

Where's the outrage Johnnie?
By johnforbes
#125219
I always think every war is a mistake if:

1) You don't intend to gain wide support

2) You don't plan to crush the enemy with overwhelming force

3) You don't have an exit plan

Vindman and his pals were just out to get Trump, but on the odd chance that they were serious, nobody in his right mind would think giving Ukraine one billion would reap any benefit to the US really.
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