[johnforbes]

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/ ... agnoli.pdf

[johnforbes]

What this means is that we need a good, solid scientific study of HCQ.

The VA study was small, shoddy, and deeply flawed.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, you are going say that ANY study that does not support Trump's reckless prescriptions is "deeply flawed" so what difference does it make.

If a globally accepted scientific study came out tomorrow reporting that HCQ doubled the mortality of COVID-19, you would still be here the next day telling us how Trump did nothing wrong.

There is NOTHING (certainly not science) that will change the mind of a Trump supporter. Changing one's mind requires the ability to think rationally. We have seen the stubborn ignorance of Trump supporters for the past three and a half years. It's not going to change now.

[johnforbes]

No, but clearly the VA study had many flaws.

One of the authors had a link to Gilead.

Look, as an investor, it would be better for me if HCQ did not work.

But, as a citizen, I want ANY therapy to help.

If Obama had recommended HCQ and it helped, I'd be delighted.

[RealJustme]

It's really puzzling that liberals so hate HCQ being tried...why?

[johnforbes]

I've been puzzled by that too.

Perhaps Fauci has some link to Big Pharma?

The VA paper had multiple authors, but one of them was linked to Gilead which makes a competing drug which investors could make money on.

It looks like CNN and MSNBC and the Left hate Trump so much that they actually hope HCQ does not work.

[Clownkicker]

"It's really puzzling that liberals so hate HCQ being tried...why?"-RealTool

There isn't a single liberal who is against HCQ being tried. You made it up and johnforbes swallowed your lie.

What liberals are against is the wholesale release of an untested drug to the general public without any scientific basis for the release.

Your typical conservative is too dimwitted to understand that drugs are dangerous. Even drugs that have exhibited few side effects in the past for their tested purpose.

Any medical scientist knows that drugs that are safe for one purpose are not automatically safe for another purpose. In fact, they can be deadly. (As shown by preliminary results showing heart damage in some cases.) Any positive anecdotal information about the efficacy of HCQ carries no more weight than any negative anecdotal information about its efficacy. And there are equal amounts of both so far.

Only an imbecile would say we should "try" HCQ across the general population without reviewed medical trials first.
Unsurprisingly, actual medical trials are exactly what liberals are doing now all around the world and they're correctly waiting upon results before they simply go out and carelessly kill people with an untested drug.

It's really puzzling that conservatives so love HCQ being tried on their own families without proof of any efficacy or safety...why?

[johnforbes]

This is a very tested drug, almost 70 yrs.

Off-label use for covid has been approved by the FDA, and physicians could have Rxed it anyhow.

The Left does NOT want HCQ to work because Trump mentioned it.

They hate Trump far, far more than they want sick people to live.

[Clownkicker]

"This is a very tested drug, almost 70 yrs."-johnfoibles

But it was never tested on COVID-19 in a double blind, johnny. Even you admit that.

"Off-label use for covid has been approved by the FDA, and physicians could have Rxed it anyhow."-johnflubs

But no doctor worth his or her salt would do such a stupid thing, johnny.
Most doctors believe in science, not your Trump voodoo. They know that a drug can have unintended consequences when applied against a new foe. It would violate their oaths to use it indiscriminately without more information than Trump has provided. (Which is none, by the way.)

"The Left does NOT want HCQ to work because Trump mentioned it."-johnfibs

It is pathological that you keep repeating that lie, johnny. It is the opposite of the truth, but I suspect you know it. You exhibit a pathology worthy of Trump himself.
Your susceptibility to that sort of psychosis explains why you would cling to a sociopath working against your own interests.

[RealJustme]

If you want to trigger a liberal just say " HCQ"

[elklindo69]

Whatever to Trump's wonder drug? They are not discussing it any longer on Fox News and in the rightwing blogosphere.

So what the new Trump treatment?

[johnforbes]

The theory is that the HCQ would open the cell, allow zinc in, and that would interfere with virus replication.

Trump's interest was in a cheap, available drug with an excellent safety record over 70 years and 1 million patients.

As an investor, I'd prefer the Gilead drug to be the magic one, but I put politics and money aside when it comes to a pandemic.

Elkin and Clown are so drenched in hate that they actually don't want HCQ to work because they hate Trump too much.

[Clownkicker]

If you want to trigger a conservative just say "Trump is wrong" about something.

[johnforbes]

For the millionth time, I'm posting about HCQ in the hope something will work.

The Gilead drug may not work either, and that is the one as an investor I would have had hope for.

HCQ, or UV lights, what suggestions does Clown have other than endless lockdown?

[Clownkicker]

I suggest we wait on results from the dozens of HCQ studies going on right now around the world before prescibing the drug on a wholesale level.

"Wanting" it to work or "wishing" it will work is meaningless. And more, those actually taking the drug right now for this virus are idiots. Thank you Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, what I suggest is TESTING. It's the one thing that will give us the data needed to ease restrictions and get people back to work. The sooner we have wide-range testing, the sooner we get out of this lockdown. It's that simple. Every epidemiological expert in the world has been telling you this for weeks but you don't care for some reason.

You should be insisting Trump puts the power of the Federal government behind making sure 30 million tests a day are done in this country instead of the million we are limited to now because of test kit supply and analysis limitations., not to mention a lack of coordination between the states for data. ONLY the Federal government can do this in a timely fashion.

But for purely partisan political reasons you are pointing everywhere but at the one person who can actually do something about the failure of nation-wide testing capability. There is no excuse for Trump not doing this AT THE VERY LEAST a month ago. By then everyone knew it was needed. By then even YOU knew it was needed.

[johnforbes]

In an ideal situation, I'd agree.

But it violates the Hippocratic Oath to not make your best effort to save life.

The VA "study" was written by NOT ONE DOCTOR WHO HAD EVER TREATED EVEN ONE CORONAVIRUS PATIENT.

The authors were a coupla MDs, a pharmacist, a researcher, and they were all linked to an ophthalmologist department.

NO DOSE INFORMATION WHATEVER WAS GIVEN IN THE PAPER.

[elklindo69]

Those 15 cases didn't go down to 0 as Trump claimed

Coronavirus didn't disappear like a miracle as Trump claimed.

Trump's the China ban did nothing and let 40,000 people in the country.

Doctors weren't hoarding anything as Trump accused.

Coronavirus it wasn't gone by Easter as Trump claimed.

And Trump's recommended hydroxychloroquine was a bust and we just flew right past 60,000 deaths

But wait Johnnie....Obama, the 30,000 Hillary emails and the uranium blah blah blah.................

[johnforbes]

Elkin, even the leftists at Yahoo "News" apologized for being wrong about the 40,000.

Those were American citizens, had to enter, and were all tracked.

So you need to update your Talking Points of Daily Trump Hatred.