[RealJustme]

We're all watching fellow Americans die in New York under Cuomo's incompetence, how long should that be tolerated, how many Americans are we willing to just sit back and watch die, just so he can remain in office.

In hindsight, it was a mistake for Trump not to have removed Cuomo from office. Trump should use his war time powers to remove Cuomo and several other governors and put in Czars in to run those States, it would have saved lives. It's not to late, I would rather watch liberals melt down than watch more Americans die.

The liberal governors are whining and doing nothing but hand wringing while waiting on the federal government to do their jobs for them... then hinder and mock that federal aid. Those obstacles, to saving American lives need to be removed from office. Their powers should be stripped 100% until this National Crisis is over.

[Clownkicker]

Once again RealTool calls for a dictatorship. Why doesn't johnforbes grow a pair and criticize RealTool for such an anti-American stance?

Why doesn't johnforbes explain to RealTooll that the President doesn't have the legal power to remove a governor from office?

Why does johnforbes repeatedly condone such blatantly unConstituitional beliefs and behavior from Trump supporters?
johnforbes claims he fought to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic and yet he cowers silently in the face of other Trump supporters calling for the overthrow of the Constitution?

This is probably because he knows Trump supporters would simply lynch him if he dared to speak up.

[johnforbes]

Sure, I could have exercised my powers under the VW Constitution and launched an effort to impeach Clownslacker from this fine forum.

But, amiable fellow that I am, I have restrained myself.

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^^^ ...and our resident pussy wusses out again.

So much for protecting and defending our Constitution if it's left in the hands of spineless partisans like johnny.

[johnforbes]

The Founders of the forum constitution, most notably Thomas Jefferson Horndog, would approve of the restraint I've shown.

[RealJustme]

Clown doesn't care if Americans die due to incompetent liberal leadership, as long as the leaders are liberal.

That's really sad, I'm all for removing them to save American lives. The can write books and live off the money they stole from tax payers, of course people like clown don't give a shit about saving Americans from this virus.

[snakeoil]

This "Shelter In Place" is starting to get to you, isn't is Justme.

[johnforbes]

Hippocrates, in Of the Epidemics, said "First, do no harm."

However, hundreds of millions of healthy people have been harmed by having their jobs gone.

Now we all know the public health reason for that, but the fact remains that there are competing interests here, and it will be impossible to ignore the risk that we will destroy the patient (America) to save it.

[Clownkicker]

You're pretending the economic damage to workers could somehow be mitigated by not having shelter at home policies.

That's delusional. The difference is that without such social distancing policies, the epidemic would run rampant, far more people would die quickly, and all those jobs and businesses would have been abandoned in a panic instead of being shut down methodically.

An uncontrolled economic collapse is always worse and more harmful to everyone than a controlled, methodical shutdown. Your economy "patient" would be 'destroyed' either way.

Their interests are not actually "competeing". They are one and the same.

[johnforbes]

It is delusional to think it is all or nothing.

It would probably have been better all along to implement improved sanitation and distance, cancel silly things like ball games, and leave America essentially working and functioning.

Already we are looking at adding 6 trillion to the debt for this shutdown.

[elklindo69]

Trump tacked on another 3 trillion to the national debt with his tax cuts...so what's the big deal if they tax on a few trillion more?

Where's the tea party when you need them?

[johnforbes]

The tax cuts were working to increase GDP and tax revenues, but were of course slammed by this pandemic.

Trump drove unemployment to historic laws, and the Left remained too dishonest to even admit that.

If this mistake of shutting down the total economy continues, then even the next 4 t in stimulus won't be enough, and this crisis will continue to add to the debt.

Is debt a problem under any president of any party?

Yes, but what is the alternative in a crisis like this?

[elklindo69]

Tax cuts don't increase tax revenues. It was never true and it never will be true. The tax cuts increased the national debt and that is a fact.

If the red states don't start implementing stay in place orders then it will be an absolute disaster. They don't have the health care infrastructure to deal with the pandemic. Look what's happening in Florida and it's spreading like wildfire through out the south east and it will be hammering the midwest shortly.

[johnforbes]

Yes, they do. JFK and Reagan knew it, and so does Trump.

Is the logic of getting a smaller slice of a bigger pie too complex for a pea brain such as Elkin's?

Yes, sadly so.