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By snakeoil
#101710
Hamilton worried about an unqualified person becoming President. The solution...The Electoral College.

Federalist #68
Federalist No. 68 is the continuation of Alexander Hamilton's analysis of the presidency, in this case concerning the method of electing the president. Hamilton argues the advantages of the indirect electoral process described in Article II Section 1 of the Constitution, although in the case of a tied vote in the Electoral College, the House of Representatives was to make the choice.

Hamilton viewed the system as superior to direct popular election. First, he recognized, the "sense of the people should operate in the choice", and would through the election of the electors to the Electoral College. Second, the electors would be:

"...men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice."

Such men would be "most likely to have the information and discernment" to make a good choice and to avoid the election of anyone "not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."

Corruption of an electoral process could most likely arise from the desire of "foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils." To minimize risk of foreign machinations and inducements, the electoral college would have only a "transient existence" and no elector could be a "senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States"; electors would make their choice in a "detached situation", whereas a preexisting body of federal office-holders "might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes".

Also, a successful candidate for the office of president would have to have the distinguished qualities to appeal to electors from many states, not just one or a few states:

"...Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States..."

Hamilton expressed confidence that:

It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue.
By elklindo69
#101712
Trump was against the electoral college.

@realDonaldTrump
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
8:45 PM - 6 Nov 2012


Until he lost the popular vote by 3 million votes...

@realDonaldTrump
The Electoral College is actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play. Campaigning is much different!
5:40 AM - 15 Nov 2016
By johnforbes
#101713
California issued something like 1 million driving licenses to illegals, and you don't even have to show that to vote in CA.

As to who is qualified for the presidency, that is a good question.

A surveyor like Washington?

A slaveowner cum genius like Jefferson?

A peanut farmer from Georgia?

A fellow who puffed pot and bought "blow" when he could afford it as he wasted his teen years shooting hoops in Hawaii, a person with secret SAT and LSAT scores?

What about an aggressive, reckless fellow who charged up San Juan Hill?

How about the first Ph.D., the one with a globalist vision, the one who claimed he would stay out of WW I but got right into it?

How about a Texas hick who had his wife buy radio stations while he supervised the handing out of licenses?

What about a rich kid from Taxachusetts who was so mediocre in school his father hired a Pulitzer-winning journalist to write his senior thesis for him at Harvard, a kid who (like his dad) spent his time banging starlets?
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