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Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:36 am
by johnforbes
Since these are not, in the pure sense, vaccines but therapeutics , herewith the efficacy derived from military use:
Moderna 59 percent
Pfizer 45 percent
J&J 13 percent
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:00 am
by Clownkicker
johnny, since you said it, I don't believe it.
Only a fool would believe anything you post without supporting evidence, and I'm not a fool like you.
Incidentally, the FDA classifies them as vaccines, not gene therapy, dummy.
You're just dutifully swallowing your partisan propaganda form your handlers.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:45 pm
by johnforbes
Partisan?
There was nothing partisan about that article -- it related to therapeutics and their percentage of efficacy.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:11 pm
by Clownkicker
What article, dimwit?
Your information came from a social media gossip site for imbeciles. And you just slurped it up without question like the tool you are.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:10 am
by johnforbes
What article?
The covid article I read, with my green eyes and good visual acuity.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:28 pm
by Clownkicker
So your only evidence is a figment of your imagination? I thought so.
How many times have I told you not to get your medical and scientific information from social media gossip sites, johnny?
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:35 pm
by elklindo69
johnforbes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:36 am
Since these are not, in the pure sense, vaccines but therapeutics , herewith the efficacy derived from military use:
Moderna 59 percent
Pfizer 45 percent
J&J 13 percent
How Well the Vaccine Works
Based on evidence from clinical trials, in people aged 18 years and older, the Moderna vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 infection in people who received two doses and had no evidence of being previously infected.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... derna.html
Moderna 59% efficiency?
We are all eagerly awaiting for Johnnie to come up with an official source to verify this?
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:41 pm
by johnforbes
Hum, wonder where Master Elkin might look for a science article?
Perhaps in Science?
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:53 pm
by elklindo69
Johnnie will be posting the source to the Moderna claim in 3.....2......1.............................
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:21 pm
by johnforbes
Elkin may be understanding the source were he capable of reading.
Hum, wonder where Master Elkin might look for a science article?
Perhaps in Science, the journal?
Or perhaps no clue is obvious enough for him?
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:29 pm
by Clownkicker
johnny, no article in Science said the COVID vaccines are actually gene therapies.
They aren't. They are vaccines.
That you couldn't produce any authoritative source to support your partisan made up stupid shit surprises no one. It only shows once again that your were duped by your handlers and you're simply too embarrassed to admit it.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:33 am
by johnforbes
This has nothing to do with me.
I mentioned an important article, said where to find it, and summarized accurately what it said.
At the close of this thread, I'd like to thank Mr. Forbes for pointing out that article about an important study.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:26 am
by Clownkicker
What article, dimwit. You still haven't offered anything about this imaginary article in Science.
That's because you misread it and didn't understand it.
Unsurprisingly, you've got nothin' as always.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:20 pm
by johnforbes
Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder, singly or in combination, could discover the article on this topic in the journal Science.
If Clown needs to be led, like a bull with a ring in his nose, then that is bull despite Clown's Jimmy Durante nose.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:51 pm
by Clownkicker
johnny, admitting that you can't post the article is not evidence that your imaginary article exists.
And insisting that everyone else should do your homework for you is not a convincing argument either.
If you had something you would post something, but you don't so you can't.
It's all anyone needs to know about your foolishness.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:36 am
by johnforbes
Clownslacker could easily locate that article, in the journal Science, in the next few seconds.
The fact that Clown is too lazy to do so speaks volumes.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:57 am
by Clownkicker
johnny, I have been pursuing your wild goose chases for years and every time they prove just the opposite of what you claimed. You simply didn't understand what you read or you regurgitated unfounded partisan propaganda.
Yes, I'm too lazy to prove you wrong again because I don't care about such nonsense and it is already certain that you are wrong.
And since every time I prove you wrong you simply continue to regurgitate your lies anyway, why would I do it again?
You're a liar. I've proved it multiple times. You've got nothin' as always.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:17 am
by johnforbes
Thanks to Clown for admitting being lazy.
He could easily have found that study, but lazily pretended it didn't exist.
Follow the science (which Clown is too lazy to do).
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:34 am
by Clownkicker
No, I couldn't find it, dumbfuck. It doesn't exist.
I searched for articles on the subject and didn't get a single hit.
Also, when you search for this supposed "Science" journal you get nothing but Science.org. If you go to their website, you need to subscribe to read past stories.
You made it up, as always.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:41 pm
by johnforbes
Of course, it exists.
Clown is always proven wrong, but never learns.
The journal Science would be where one might look for this article about covid vaccine efficacy, but Clown is no Sherlock Holmes.
Nor a Dr Watson.
Nor a doctor.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:14 pm
by Clownkicker
It's not there, you lying sack of shit. I looked there.
That you can't post it is all the proof of your lies that anyone needs.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:00 pm
by johnforbes
But, of course, it is there.
Now the clues were all in place.
A journal.
About science.
Called "science."
A 6th grader could solve that puzzle, but it eludes Clown...
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:27 pm
by Clownkicker
Yes, johnny, you couldn't find the alleged article either. We get it.
By the way, there is no search function on the "Science.org" website so you couldn't find the article even if it did exist.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:19 am
by johnforbes
Elkin may be understanding the source were he capable of reading.
Hum, wonder where Master Elkin might look for a science article?
Perhaps in Science, the journal?
Or perhaps no clue is obvious enough for him?
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:02 pm
by Clownkicker
Or perhaps johnfibs should put his alleged legal training to use and do what every lawyer must do, which is cite the precedent or case behind his claims.
No wonder johnny is a failed lawyer. No judge would put up with his loudmouthed declarations and claims without any evidence to back up his bullshit.
When you have a title and source of an article to post, we can talk about it, johnny. Until then, you are simply making up stupid shit. No one in their right mind would believe you.
Since the only thing you have posted thus far is your own thoughts, (you offered no quoted material, so your post consists of your own thoughts or it's plagiarized material) your ignorance and stupidity are the only things I can comment on, which is what I do. I tell everyone why YOU are such a partisan douche bag. You ask for "thoughts?" but you have given us nothing else to have thoughts about.
I would much rather talk about what experts or documenting news reports say, but you never post any.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:36 pm
by johnforbes
Asked and answered.
Since these are not, in the pure sense, vaccines but therapeutics , herewith the efficacy derived from military use:
Moderna 59 percent
Pfizer 45 percent
J&J 13 percent
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:08 pm
by Clownkicker
Yes, dimwit, you have answered with more of your delusional thoughts on some imaginary subject.
But first you should offer some authoritative substance if you want others to take part in the discussion.
Get back to us when you have something. Till then you've got nothin' as always.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:26 pm
by elklindo69
If anybody out there trusts John Forbes understanding of infectious diseases and medical science more than Dr. Fauci....it's pretty safe to assume that all of humanity will be stronger without you around.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:28 pm
by Clownkicker
johnny read that nonsense on a reputable social media gossip site, so it must be true.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:01 pm
by johnforbes
Given the stock market Friday and today, I am sitting in a cardboard box down by the river, with my taut, tan musculature shivering in the chilly dusk.
But thanks to Clown for finally admitting that what I posted was true.
Moderna 59 percent
Pfizer 45 percent
J&J 13 percent
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:15 pm
by Clownkicker
^^^^^^^^ johnny is deeply entrenched in his unsupported delusions.
He just can't stopped repeating them and he can't find any evidence to support them.
In medical school they told us not to challenge the delusions of the mentally ill. It will only make them more trenchantly deranged.
But hey, it sure is fun to torture the little bugger with the truth.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:10 am
by johnforbes
Jefferson could write in Greek with his left hand while writing the same in Latin with his right hand.
Clowntoker, however, has mastered the art of writing nonsense with both hands.
The efficacy percentages were interesting, and they do comport with what is now global knowledge with respect to the waning of vaccine effectiveness.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:26 am
by Clownkicker
Look at the nonsense johnforbes continues to perpetrate every day.
This whole thread is based upon the lie that the COVID vaccines are somehow gene therapies when they aren't, and every expert in the field of vaccines agrees with that statement.
Any time now johnforbes will continue to post even more nonsense based upon this partisan political fallacy.
Clowns like johnforbes are responsible for the many thousands of deaths among stubbornly unvaccinated Republicans.
As the song goes, Look For The Silver Lining.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:44 am
by sillydaddy
Clown ...The FDA is lying to you....

Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:32 am
by Clownkicker
silly ...johnforbes is lying to you....

Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:39 pm
by johnforbes
As some here already know, Clowntoker had a big belly even in high school, and he was as negative as he is here.
Thus, his high school nickname was "The Abdominal No-Man."
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:27 pm
by Clownkicker
silly ...johnforbes is lying to me....

Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:43 pm
by johnforbes
This thread is nothing to sneeze at.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:48 pm
by elklindo69
Maybe you should try some hydroxychloroquine, snorting some ajax or the new Trump brand of bleach nasal decongestant.
And that is coming from the so-called Republican Party of "law-and-order Christian values" who are refusing to follow the law and wear a mask to protect their community from preventable death?
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:48 pm
by johnforbes
I have said this many times, and herewith reiterate for Elkin's edification.
On a hot, humid day, after a long hike, when droplets of sweat form on the taut, tan skin of Mr. Forbes, there is nothing so refreshing as a tall cool glass of bleach.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:51 pm
by elklindo69
Johnnie you are more delusional than Trump. Maybe a bottle of horse dewormer will clear things up. Apparently Trumpism is a really serious mental disorder.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:43 am
by Clownkicker
Let me make this as simple as possible for johnfibs.
Here is the journal about science called "Science"--search terms "COVID therapeutic efficacy"
Articles from September to November--
https://www.science.org/action/doSearch ... eYear=2021
Of the twenty articles, not one says what johnforbes claims--that the vaccines are not actually vaccines. Nor do any show results of military studies. And many of the articles specifically talk about "vaccines" or "vaccinations" and not a "therapeutic"
This is why johnforbes couldn't produce his phony article. He made it up. He couldn't produce a title for the article, nor could he produce a date for the article. johnforbes simply misunderstood whatever he actually read on the subject.
But will this proof that dishonestjohn lied to us shut him up? Of course not. And this thread is proof that he has no intention of ever actually enlightening anyone on any topic of discussion. If he did, he would cheerfully produce website links, article titles, article dates, and attributed quotations from his sources like an educated person does.
Sadly, purely partisan lies are johnny's raison d'etre.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:03 pm
by johnforbes
Clownslacker brings to the task of research the skills of: a) a clown and b) a slacker.
Perhaps it is time to reveal Clown's real name, which is:
Bill N. Cycle
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:56 pm
by Clownkicker
See? johnfibs couldn't prove me wrong. You know he would if he could.
johnforbes is a partisan liar.
QED
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:26 am
by johnforbes
My posts on this thread were, of course, completely correct.
QED
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:34 pm
by Clownkicker
Your posts on this thread were, of course, completely made up.
And your inability to prove otherwise speaks volumes about your partisan dishonesty.
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:24 pm
by johnforbes
My loyal staffers assess every post not only for authorial merit, but also scientific import.
The posts from Mr Forbes on this thread were completely correct.
QED
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:40 pm
by Clownkicker
The only thing wrong with johnny's posts is EVERYTHING.
He persists in callingthe vaccines "therapeutics" when every expert in the field of epidemiology, virology, and medicine call them "vaccines".
johnforbes is a just an ignorant partisan fool.
QED
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 3:44 pm
by johnforbes
In the weird world in which Clown resides, "QED" stands for "Queer Every Day."
For the rest of us normal folks, though, the prior posts from Mr. Forbes stand out in stark relief as pillars of science.
QED
Re: Covid Therapeutic Efficacy
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:09 am
by Clownkicker
You can always tell when johnforbes realizes he knows I proved him wrong.
It's when he starts barfing up nothing but endless impotent ad hominem attacks because he's too chickenshit to admit he's wrong.