[johnforbes]

Since these are not, in the pure sense, vaccines but therapeutics , herewith the efficacy derived from military use:

Moderna 59 percent

Pfizer 45 percent

J&J 13 percent

[Clownkicker]

johnny, since you said it, I don't believe it.

Only a fool would believe anything you post without supporting evidence, and I'm not a fool like you.

Incidentally, the FDA classifies them as vaccines, not gene therapy, dummy.

You're just dutifully swallowing your partisan propaganda form your handlers.

[johnforbes]

Partisan?

There was nothing partisan about that article -- it related to therapeutics and their percentage of efficacy.

[Clownkicker]

What article, dimwit?

Your information came from a social media gossip site for imbeciles. And you just slurped it up without question like the tool you are.

[johnforbes]

What article?

The covid article I read, with my green eyes and good visual acuity.

[Clownkicker]

So your only evidence is a figment of your imagination? I thought so.

How many times have I told you not to get your medical and scientific information from social media gossip sites, johnny?

[elklindo69]

Since these are not, in the pure sense, vaccines but therapeutics , herewith the efficacy derived from military use:

Moderna 59 percent

Pfizer 45 percent

J&J 13 percent

How Well the Vaccine Works

Based on evidence from clinical trials, in people aged 18 years and older, the Moderna vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 infection in people who received two doses and had no evidence of being previously infected.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... derna.html

Moderna 59% efficiency?

We are all eagerly awaiting for Johnnie to come up with an official source to verify this?

[johnforbes]

Hum, wonder where Master Elkin might look for a science article?

Perhaps in Science?

[elklindo69]

Johnnie will be posting the source to the Moderna claim in 3.....2......1.............................

[johnforbes]

Elkin may be understanding the source were he capable of reading.

Hum, wonder where Master Elkin might look for a science article?

Perhaps in Science, the journal?

Or perhaps no clue is obvious enough for him?

[Clownkicker]

johnny, no article in Science said the COVID vaccines are actually gene therapies.

They aren't. They are vaccines.

That you couldn't produce any authoritative source to support your partisan made up stupid shit surprises no one. It only shows once again that your were duped by your handlers and you're simply too embarrassed to admit it.

[johnforbes]

This has nothing to do with me.

I mentioned an important article, said where to find it, and summarized accurately what it said.

At the close of this thread, I'd like to thank Mr. Forbes for pointing out that article about an important study.

[Clownkicker]

What article, dimwit. You still haven't offered anything about this imaginary article in Science.

That's because you misread it and didn't understand it.

Unsurprisingly, you've got nothin' as always.

[johnforbes]

Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder, singly or in combination, could discover the article on this topic in the journal Science.

If Clown needs to be led, like a bull with a ring in his nose, then that is bull despite Clown's Jimmy Durante nose.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, admitting that you can't post the article is not evidence that your imaginary article exists.

And insisting that everyone else should do your homework for you is not a convincing argument either.

If you had something you would post something, but you don't so you can't.

It's all anyone needs to know about your foolishness.

[johnforbes]

Clownslacker could easily locate that article, in the journal Science, in the next few seconds.

The fact that Clown is too lazy to do so speaks volumes.

[Clownkicker]

johnny, I have been pursuing your wild goose chases for years and every time they prove just the opposite of what you claimed. You simply didn't understand what you read or you regurgitated unfounded partisan propaganda.

Yes, I'm too lazy to prove you wrong again because I don't care about such nonsense and it is already certain that you are wrong.

And since every time I prove you wrong you simply continue to regurgitate your lies anyway, why would I do it again?

You're a liar. I've proved it multiple times. You've got nothin' as always.

[johnforbes]

Thanks to Clown for admitting being lazy.

He could easily have found that study, but lazily pretended it didn't exist.

Follow the science (which Clown is too lazy to do).

[Clownkicker]

No, I couldn't find it, dumbfuck. It doesn't exist.

I searched for articles on the subject and didn't get a single hit.

Also, when you search for this supposed "Science" journal you get nothing but Science.org. If you go to their website, you need to subscribe to read past stories.

You made it up, as always.

[johnforbes]

Of course, it exists.

Clown is always proven wrong, but never learns.

The journal Science would be where one might look for this article about covid vaccine efficacy, but Clown is no Sherlock Holmes.

Nor a Dr Watson.

Nor a doctor.

[Clownkicker]

It's not there, you lying sack of shit. I looked there.

That you can't post it is all the proof of your lies that anyone needs.

[johnforbes]

But, of course, it is there.

Now the clues were all in place.

A journal.

About science.

Called "science."

A 6th grader could solve that puzzle, but it eludes Clown...

[Clownkicker]

Yes, johnny, you couldn't find the alleged article either. We get it.



By the way, there is no search function on the "Science.org" website so you couldn't find the article even if it did exist.

[johnforbes]

Elkin may be understanding the source were he capable of reading.

Hum, wonder where Master Elkin might look for a science article?

Perhaps in Science, the journal?

Or perhaps no clue is obvious enough for him?

[Clownkicker]

Or perhaps johnfibs should put his alleged legal training to use and do what every lawyer must do, which is cite the precedent or case behind his claims.

No wonder johnny is a failed lawyer. No judge would put up with his loudmouthed declarations and claims without any evidence to back up his bullshit.

When you have a title and source of an article to post, we can talk about it, johnny. Until then, you are simply making up stupid shit. No one in their right mind would believe you.

Since the only thing you have posted thus far is your own thoughts, (you offered no quoted material, so your post consists of your own thoughts or it's plagiarized material) your ignorance and stupidity are the only things I can comment on, which is what I do. I tell everyone why YOU are such a partisan douche bag. You ask for "thoughts?" but you have given us nothing else to have thoughts about.

I would much rather talk about what experts or documenting news reports say, but you never post any.

[johnforbes]

Asked and answered.

Since these are not, in the pure sense, vaccines but therapeutics , herewith the efficacy derived from military use:

Moderna 59 percent

Pfizer 45 percent

J&J 13 percent

[Clownkicker]

Yes, dimwit, you have answered with more of your delusional thoughts on some imaginary subject.

But first you should offer some authoritative substance if you want others to take part in the discussion.

Get back to us when you have something. Till then you've got nothin' as always.

[elklindo69]

If anybody out there trusts John Forbes understanding of infectious diseases and medical science more than Dr. Fauci....it's pretty safe to assume that all of humanity will be stronger without you around.

[Clownkicker]

johnny read that nonsense on a reputable social media gossip site, so it must be true.

[johnforbes]

Given the stock market Friday and today, I am sitting in a cardboard box down by the river, with my taut, tan musculature shivering in the chilly dusk.

But thanks to Clown for finally admitting that what I posted was true.

Moderna 59 percent

Pfizer 45 percent

J&J 13 percent

[Clownkicker]

^^^^^^^^ johnny is deeply entrenched in his unsupported delusions.

He just can't stopped repeating them and he can't find any evidence to support them.

In medical school they told us not to challenge the delusions of the mentally ill. It will only make them more trenchantly deranged.

But hey, it sure is fun to torture the little bugger with the truth.

[johnforbes]

Jefferson could write in Greek with his left hand while writing the same in Latin with his right hand.

Clowntoker, however, has mastered the art of writing nonsense with both hands.

The efficacy percentages were interesting, and they do comport with what is now global knowledge with respect to the waning of vaccine effectiveness.

[Clownkicker]

Look at the nonsense johnforbes continues to perpetrate every day.

This whole thread is based upon the lie that the COVID vaccines are somehow gene therapies when they aren't, and every expert in the field of vaccines agrees with that statement.

Any time now johnforbes will continue to post even more nonsense based upon this partisan political fallacy.

Clowns like johnforbes are responsible for the many thousands of deaths among stubbornly unvaccinated Republicans.

As the song goes, Look For The Silver Lining.

[sillydaddy]

Clown ...The FDA is lying to you....

[Clownkicker]

silly ...johnforbes is lying to you....

[johnforbes]

As some here already know, Clowntoker had a big belly even in high school, and he was as negative as he is here.

Thus, his high school nickname was "The Abdominal No-Man."

[Clownkicker]

silly ...johnforbes is lying to me....

[johnforbes]

This thread is nothing to sneeze at.

[elklindo69]

Maybe you should try some hydroxychloroquine, snorting some ajax or the new Trump brand of bleach nasal decongestant.

And that is coming from the so-called Republican Party of "law-and-order Christian values" who are refusing to follow the law and wear a mask to protect their community from preventable death?

[johnforbes]

I have said this many times, and herewith reiterate for Elkin's edification.

On a hot, humid day, after a long hike, when droplets of sweat form on the taut, tan skin of Mr. Forbes, there is nothing so refreshing as a tall cool glass of bleach.

[elklindo69]

Johnnie you are more delusional than Trump. Maybe a bottle of horse dewormer will clear things up. Apparently Trumpism is a really serious mental disorder.

[Clownkicker]

Let me make this as simple as possible for johnfibs.

Here is the journal about science called "Science"--search terms "COVID therapeutic efficacy"
Articles from September to November--

https://www.science.org/action/doSearch ... eYear=2021

Of the twenty articles, not one says what johnforbes claims--that the vaccines are not actually vaccines. Nor do any show results of military studies. And many of the articles specifically talk about "vaccines" or "vaccinations" and not a "therapeutic"

This is why johnforbes couldn't produce his phony article. He made it up. He couldn't produce a title for the article, nor could he produce a date for the article. johnforbes simply misunderstood whatever he actually read on the subject.

But will this proof that dishonestjohn lied to us shut him up? Of course not. And this thread is proof that he has no intention of ever actually enlightening anyone on any topic of discussion. If he did, he would cheerfully produce website links, article titles, article dates, and attributed quotations from his sources like an educated person does.

Sadly, purely partisan lies are johnny's raison d'etre.

[johnforbes]

Clownslacker brings to the task of research the skills of: a) a clown and b) a slacker.

Perhaps it is time to reveal Clown's real name, which is:

Bill N. Cycle

[Clownkicker]

See? johnfibs couldn't prove me wrong. You know he would if he could.

johnforbes is a partisan liar.

QED

[johnforbes]

My posts on this thread were, of course, completely correct.

QED

[Clownkicker]

Your posts on this thread were, of course, completely made up.

And your inability to prove otherwise speaks volumes about your partisan dishonesty.

[johnforbes]

My loyal staffers assess every post not only for authorial merit, but also scientific import.

The posts from Mr Forbes on this thread were completely correct.

QED

[Clownkicker]

The only thing wrong with johnny's posts is EVERYTHING.

He persists in callingthe vaccines "therapeutics" when every expert in the field of epidemiology, virology, and medicine call them "vaccines".

johnforbes is a just an ignorant partisan fool.

QED

[johnforbes]

In the weird world in which Clown resides, "QED" stands for "Queer Every Day."

For the rest of us normal folks, though, the prior posts from Mr. Forbes stand out in stark relief as pillars of science.

QED

[Clownkicker]

You can always tell when johnforbes realizes he knows I proved him wrong.

It's when he starts barfing up nothing but endless impotent ad hominem attacks because he's too chickenshit to admit he's wrong.