- Tue May 06, 2025 11:11 pm
#138669
Criminy, will dimwit johnny never learn? He is once again getting his scientific information from internet gossip sites. In this case, from the fine minds pissing away their lives on Instagram.
The instagram clowns cherry picked TWO DAYS of data without any context. johnforbes is really that stupid, to believe he gets any meaningful information one way or the other about global climate change by looking at ice coverage in only one place on earth on just two days out of decades of data. Once again dimwit johnny is confusing "weather" with "climate". A mere two days of data is a weather report, nothing more. 30 years of weather data MAY or MAY NOT indicate something about global climate change. The data must be put into a global context to have meaning. As always, johnforbes can only look out his window and delude himself that he is observing any meaningful information about global climate change. This is because he is your typical Trump-supporting ignoramus who are literally incapable of understanding what "climate" is. "Weather" is all their minds can grasp. And even that is weather occurring in only one part of the planet on just two days out of thousands.
"Citing data from the University of Colorado Boulder’s National Snow and Ice Data Center, (NSIDC), the users said Antarctica’s sea ice extent reached 3.08 million square kilometres on March 9, 1997, opens new tab, compared with 3.17 million square kilometres on the same date in 2024, opens new tab.
The NSIDC told Reuters via email these figures do not match its records. It said the five-day average sea ice extent was 2.76 million square kilometres on March 9, 1997, and 2.80 million square kilometres on March 9, 2024. [So the partisan gossip mongers can't even use accurate information to start their partisan gossip thread. Why would anyone believe anything else they post after that glaring error?]
"Two other climate experts who spoke to Reuters said “cherry-picked” dates comparing Antarctica’s sea ice extent would also not provide an accurate picture by itself of Earth’s changing climate. This is because it would fail to show long-term trends, but also because scientists are unsure how climate change is affecting sea ice in this area of the planet."
[johnforbes is so stupid that he thinks climate scientists and Democrats claim that temperature and ice trends everywhere on the planet only go up in a straight line; that they never go down before turning upward again. They don't only go up, of course. If only johnforbes had ever invested in stocks (say, in 2024 and 2025) he would know about trends over time; that sometimes the price of a stock on an upward trend will temporarily go down to a lower price before turning up again. Graphs of climate data are always going up and down within the larger upward trend in the same sort of jagged graph as high quality stocks. The TREND OVER TIME is what matters, in stocks as in climate data. The cherry picked data from johnny's internet gossip site mean nothing in themselves without context.]
I have tried many times to educate Dishonestjohn about the difference between climate and weather, but johnforbes is painfully incorrigible. It is painful the way watching Trump doggedly humiliate himself in the White House interview when ABC's Moran tried desperately to give Trump a graceful out concerning his ignorant comments about the tattoos on the knuckles of Abrego Garcia. Trump wouldn't take the graceful out and instead kept harping on the non-existent tattoos that Abrego Garcia doesn't have on his hands. Trump and johnforbes are both too stupid to understand that the picture their handlers duped them with were photo-shopped. The "M" "S" "1" and "3" in the photos are not actually tattoos on Abrego Garcias hand. They are only in the altered photo.
"Uncertainties about Antarctica’s sea ice trend does not mean climate change warnings are a scam, as there are other indicators that point to a warming planet.
Scientists pointed in 2023 to the melting of Antarctica’s Thwaites Glacier as evidence of climate change reaching the isolated continent.
Dr Caroline Holmes, a polar climate scientist from the British Antarctic Survey, used sea ice extent around the northern hemisphere’s polar cap as an example. She told Reuters by telephone: “In terms of the Arctic, as long as we have been observing it, there has been a slight downward trend, and then in 2007 and 2012 that’s when we saw really rapid declines. Since then, it has stayed low.”
Using the same example, Screen said: “In the Arctic, it’s very clear – you had this big warming, a dramatic loss of ice and if you were to look at a graph of the Arctic, it’s very steeply down.”
Even if sea ice returns in the Antarctic, it doesn’t disprove other evidence of climate change, Screen added. “It gives scientists a puzzle to understand why in a warming climate it isn’t declining like it is in the Arctic. But it doesn’t suddenly invalidate all the other indicators: warming oceans, warmer temperatures, earlier flowering of blossoms, bleaching of corals, Arctic sea ice, I mean the list is endless.”
Try to keep up, johnny. Follow the science, not Instagram gossip, fer cripes sake.