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#138664
"A surprising climate change study has Democrats on their heels after scientists were startled to report that ice around the South Pole has grown by leaps and bounds for the first time in years.

The Antarctic Ice Sheet, which represents nearly all of the continent’s 5.4 million square miles, gained additional mass between 2021 and 2023, reversing a trend that had seen Antarctica steadily eroded for decades.

Snowfall in four key glacier basins in East Antarctica contributed to the growth of glacier masses there, according to the study, while satellite imagery showed that the growth of the continent was so massive that it led to a decline in overall sea levels."
#138669
Criminy, will dimwit johnny never learn? He is once again getting his scientific information from internet gossip sites. In this case, from the fine minds pissing away their lives on Instagram.

The instagram clowns cherry picked TWO DAYS of data without any context. johnforbes is really that stupid, to believe he gets any meaningful information one way or the other about global climate change by looking at ice coverage in only one place on earth on just two days out of decades of data. Once again dimwit johnny is confusing "weather" with "climate". A mere two days of data is a weather report, nothing more. 30 years of weather data MAY or MAY NOT indicate something about global climate change. The data must be put into a global context to have meaning. As always, johnforbes can only look out his window and delude himself that he is observing any meaningful information about global climate change. This is because he is your typical Trump-supporting ignoramus who are literally incapable of understanding what "climate" is. "Weather" is all their minds can grasp. And even that is weather occurring in only one part of the planet on just two days out of thousands.

"Citing data from the University of Colorado Boulder’s National Snow and Ice Data Center, (NSIDC), the users said Antarctica’s sea ice extent reached 3.08 million square kilometres on March 9, 1997, opens new tab, compared with 3.17 million square kilometres on the same date in 2024, opens new tab.

The NSIDC told Reuters via email these figures do not match its records. It said the five-day average sea ice extent was 2.76 million square kilometres on March 9, 1997, and 2.80 million square kilometres on March 9, 2024. [So the partisan gossip mongers can't even use accurate information to start their partisan gossip thread. Why would anyone believe anything else they post after that glaring error?]

"Two other climate experts who spoke to Reuters said “cherry-picked” dates comparing Antarctica’s sea ice extent would also not provide an accurate picture by itself of Earth’s changing climate. This is because it would fail to show long-term trends, but also because scientists are unsure how climate change is affecting sea ice in this area of the planet."
[johnforbes is so stupid that he thinks climate scientists and Democrats claim that temperature and ice trends everywhere on the planet only go up in a straight line; that they never go down before turning upward again. They don't only go up, of course. If only johnforbes had ever invested in stocks (say, in 2024 and 2025) he would know about trends over time; that sometimes the price of a stock on an upward trend will temporarily go down to a lower price before turning up again. Graphs of climate data are always going up and down within the larger upward trend in the same sort of jagged graph as high quality stocks. The TREND OVER TIME is what matters, in stocks as in climate data. The cherry picked data from johnny's internet gossip site mean nothing in themselves without context.]

I have tried many times to educate Dishonestjohn about the difference between climate and weather, but johnforbes is painfully incorrigible. It is painful the way watching Trump doggedly humiliate himself in the White House interview when ABC's Moran tried desperately to give Trump a graceful out concerning his ignorant comments about the tattoos on the knuckles of Abrego Garcia. Trump wouldn't take the graceful out and instead kept harping on the non-existent tattoos that Abrego Garcia doesn't have on his hands. Trump and johnforbes are both too stupid to understand that the picture their handlers duped them with were photo-shopped. The "M" "S" "1" and "3" in the photos are not actually tattoos on Abrego Garcias hand. They are only in the altered photo.


"Uncertainties about Antarctica’s sea ice trend does not mean climate change warnings are a scam, as there are other indicators that point to a warming planet.
Scientists pointed in 2023 to the melting of Antarctica’s Thwaites Glacier as evidence of climate change reaching the isolated continent.

Dr Caroline Holmes, a polar climate scientist from the British Antarctic Survey, used sea ice extent around the northern hemisphere’s polar cap as an example. She told Reuters by telephone: “In terms of the Arctic, as long as we have been observing it, there has been a slight downward trend, and then in 2007 and 2012 that’s when we saw really rapid declines. Since then, it has stayed low.”

Using the same example, Screen said: “In the Arctic, it’s very clear – you had this big warming, a dramatic loss of ice and if you were to look at a graph of the Arctic, it’s very steeply down.”
Even if sea ice returns in the Antarctic, it doesn’t disprove other evidence of climate change, Screen added. “It gives scientists a puzzle to understand why in a warming climate it isn’t declining like it is in the Arctic. But it doesn’t suddenly invalidate all the other indicators: warming oceans, warmer temperatures, earlier flowering of blossoms, bleaching of corals, Arctic sea ice, I mean the list is endless.”

Try to keep up, johnny. Follow the science, not Instagram gossip, fer cripes sake.
#138671
No matter how Clowntoker writhes and wiggles around that Pole issue, he cannot gyrate away from the reality or dance away from the issue.

In other words, he cannot avail himself of the sordid skills he employed in the extreme excesses of the deviant dens of fetid Frisco.

In summary, it is cold at the South Pole.

Cold creates ice.

Even Al Gore, an obese politician living in a 20,000 square foot casa, cannot slither away from that inexorable truth.
#138678
Hmmm, no mindless partisan trolling from johnforbes recently. I bet he re-booked his two week summer vacation to Switzerland instead of Antarctica because he knew how warm it gets in Switzerland these days? johnforbes was overheard pontificating at a local Gasthaus about how he would only believe in global warming "when cows fly."

Smug assholes like johnforbes never know when to keep their mouths shut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRV6cFmSctI
Notice the disturbing video at time stamp :15. :O

Unfortunately for dimwit johnny, it has gotten a bit TOO warm there and the alpine village he was visiting to work on his tan was just wiped off the map by a collapsing glacier. We can only hope johnny's ignorant partisan foolishness hasn't cost him his life this time.
What are the odds? A village that has snuggled safe and sound in the reliable cold of Switzerland for at least 600 years is now gone because the glacier melted from rising temperatures in the past decade. How can that be when everyone knows global warming is a hoax?

To put it in terms even an imbecile like johnforbes can apparently understand:

1) Historically anomalous heat in Switzerland

2) Heat melts ice

3) cows fly
#138684
"Having just been in Switzerland, Mr Forbes can testify that it was chilly at night even in May."-Dishonestjohn

Yeah, dumbfuck, temperatures in the 50s at night are really "chilly" :/
That's short sleeve weather to me. You are apparently so ignorant that you are unaware that ice melts when temperatures are above 32 degrees Fahrenheit.


Let's remember the rest of the "basics" that obviously never penetrated your thick skull, johnny:

1) When it is not cold, ice can turn into water

2) water is not cold enough to cling to the side of a mountain.

3) when ice turns to water, glaciers can wipe villages off the map.


Are you beginning to see how global warming can get to be a problem, dimwit? You make a big deal out of Obama buying a house that will never be below sea level in his lifetime, but you are oblivious to the facts of physics that apply even in the mountains. When a mountain of ice is above your head, you might want to take steps to ensure that it doesn't melt too fast.
#138686
When it is 50 degrees F, the honorable Mr Forbes is not in a t-shirt only, despite the fact that short-sleeved shirts do expose his muscular, lightly tanned, forearms to the scrutiny of the waiting world.

No, at that temperature, Mr Forbes has his lean, lithe -- svelte and supple -- frame in a very light sweatshirt or zip-front fleece pullover.

Of course, pullovers have one disadvantage, which is that they may require recombing the Forbesian locks to rearrange them into their customary perfection.

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