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#9140
Entrepreneur didnt build this country Union thugs did right Obama. It wasnt the pioneers nor my grate, grate grand dad who built that corner store, nor that farm my dad worked on or that news paper. No it was all of Obama unions thugs who built this country.

How fucking stupid can one person be? Your telling me that the local business were not built by the person who put in thousands of hours researching, mapping it out and putting their hard earned money into it. It was all done by tax thieving union thugs. You have got to be serious.....
#9176
LOL, they believe their own distortions and lies. They always fail to listen and understand the source and what was really said. They always listen and believe their masters. The current Republican fodder.

Dildo Bagfull why dont you take the time to point out with facts where we are wrong instead of pull this worthless bullshit rhetoric out of your ass. You know you cant refute what I posted. Nor can you refute Obongo is the most stupid person on the face of the planet. And you are the most brain washed person on the face of the planet Daily douche.
#9216
namngulfvet wrote:LOL, they believe their own distortions and lies. They always fail to listen and understand the source and what was really said. They always listen and believe their masters. The current Republican fodder.

Dildo Bagfull why dont you take the time to point out with facts where we are wrong instead of pull this worthless bullshit rhetoric out of your ass. You know you cant refute what I posted. Nor can you refute Obongo is the most stupid person on the face of the planet. And you are the most brain washed person on the face of the planet Daily douche.

Hey gulfvet liar....

You are twisting what Obama said. Listen to the words he said after that and look at the context. If everbody will just listen to the full statement of Obama you will know the right wing media twisted it. Just as like they lied about John Kerry's vietnam record.

Obama said that if you built a business you didn't built it by yourself because you have to use the roads to ship your products and supplies, you also have to use the internet and roads and the internet was created by the help of the government. The Internet was created by the government putting funding on it thru our tax dollars. It grew and now we are largely benefiting from it.

Obama also said after that statement that we grow together faster and more is benefited because of it.

Just as like as the military....no race never leaving a comrade behind.

There you are gulfvet....I just disputed your lie. Also prove that you twisted the words of Obama to make him look bad. This talking point of yours was use by Limbaugh, Hannity and other right wing media.

IF YOU THINK THAT WHAT OBAMA SAID WAS NOT TWISTED WHY IS IT THE RIGHT WING MEDIA IS NOT TALKING ABOUT IT ANYMORE ? You know why ? Because it has been exposed and debunked that Romney twisted Obama words.

Everybody who is reading this google or listen to the whole audio or read the whole paragraph of what Obama said about you didnt build your business. And you will see that Gulfvet is lying.

Lies needs to be stop. What they did with John Kerry's veteran record by swift boating it with lies should not happen again. Republicans cannot run on their platform. They lie to win elections.
#9217
namngulfvet wrote:Dildo aka daily douche not according to your messiah. It was all his union thugs not Entrepreneurs. But thanks for agreeing Obama is nothing more then an extremely stupid socialist.
JS

Everybody reading gulfvet post....here is proof that he is lying or twisting what Obama said....i will ask him one question and see what his response is....

Gulfvet why don't you post the entire paragraph of what Obama said regarding the building your own business or get a link to let people really read it ?

I know you won't because you know you are lying. I challenge your honesty in front of people reading this...post it and we will see who's lying
#9221
Heres Obamas words, word for word now tell me Im a liar.



“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make
#9267
namngulfvet wrote:Heres Obamas words, word for word now tell me Im a liar.



“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make

Hahaha....yes you are liar. Look at the context of that phrase to the whole paragraph. Dumb ass....lol....how stupid you are....At the very least, if not stupid, you twisted it so you could score political points against him.

Hey moron....the reason why you can post here now is because of government funding to research on internet back in the days....you are like one of those conservatives saying keep government off my healthcare yet they use medicare....lol...or i don't like socialism so ill move to canada (who has free healthcare)....lol...

I know this is a politics forum. And people find things that they can use against their opponents up to the point of slicing or spinning it....but this one is too obvious what Obama is trying to say....

If he is against small business why would he not increase taxes to americans earning less than 250k per year ?

Yes....you are lying by twisting obama's words....
#9268
namngulfvet wrote:Heres Obamas words, word for word now tell me Im a liar.



“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make
If you are a gulf veteran and is receiving free government healthcare for life or availed of the educational program for vets....it is because of taxes from me and other fellow americans.

Just as like what Obama is saying above....if you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. I'm not taking credit away from you being a gulf veteran but you are getting the benefits from it right now because of your fellow americans doing their part as well.

You are a gulf veteran now...part of it why you survive is because you were trained well...and your buddy watch and save your back. You just don't say, "I survive the gulf war because i killed 200 enemies in one firefight by myself and i trained on my own. And i bought my own fighting equipment." And same with other vets as well.

Just as like i won't claim credit for my freedom here. I enjoy it because of people like you who fight for it. AND AT THE SAME TIME, other vets who came before me.

That is what this country is all about.That is what Obama is trying to say. Unfortunately, you tried to twist his words or just don't like him that whatever he does or say is always wrong.

Any fair and non political people who would read the whole paragraph of Obama would say that you twisted his words so he would look bad.
#9293
Now back to Romney's example of a man who created his own company on his own. Uh, with $1,000,000.00 in loans from state and federal government. But all on his own. He built the roads to his business as well as the communications infrastructure and the suppliers, and he built the money his customers spent on his products and services. Out of nothi9ng, well except for a whole country and world of people before him and all the contributes and investments they made.
#9471
namngulfvet wrote:Nice spin there themission, nice spin. No matter how you put it here the exact quote.

If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

Romney claims credit for saving the olympics in Utah. Did you know that the federal government gave the Olympic 1.5 billion dollars ? Romney asked help from the government. Everybody go to MotherJones Magazine and read it. Even John Mc Cain criticized Romney for asking that much money from the government.

Now tell me did Romney did it all along by himself making the olympic successful ? No. Somebody else made that happen. In this case, the federal government helped Romney. Now he is claiming credit for saving the olympics ?

You fall flat in your face again NamgulfVet.....No matter how hard you try to lie you always get caught.

Here's another one for you. Did you know that when the Winter Olympics in Utah was organized Romney build roads using the 1.5 billion dollars he asked from the government that were beneficial to his rich property developers friends in Utah ?
This is why John McCain asked for an investigation because there was conflict of interest with Romney.

Guess you didn't know that Namgulfvet right ? Your Romney candidate ask for government hand out to save the utah winter olympics and took credit for it while using tax payers money to help his rich mormon utah friends.

Everybody look this up online. Don't believe me. Research it yourself.
#9478
Romney asked help from the government.

You fall flat in your face again NamgulfVet...


THEMISSION You cant have it both ways there dude. you say the government did it yet you also said Romney did it. Which is it. Looks to me like Romney spearheaded it and got the government to help out in both cases. Bottom line is Romney did it.

Did you know that when the Winter Olympics in Utah was organized Romney build roads using the 1.5 billion dollars he asked from the government

Again it looks like Romney did it. With out Romney approaching the government the government would never have been involved. yet you call me a liar. You seem to thrive on that word without thinking.
Its the same as any business owner who ask for help. Also keep in mind the roads were already there and he pays taxes for that service but it was not the government who build that business. All they did was provide a service that hes paid for and nothing more.. That business owner did all his own research on what he needed to get the job done not the government. that business owner coordinated pulling it all together and making it work not the government. Its obvious you nor didlo have ever ran your own business it you really think the government did it for you....
#9483
namngulfvet wrote:Romney asked help from the government.

You fall flat in your face again NamgulfVet...


THEMISSION You cant have it both ways there dude. you say the government did it yet you also said Romney did it. Which is it. Looks to me like Romney spearheaded it and got the government to help out in both cases. Bottom line is Romney did it.

Did you know that when the Winter Olympics in Utah was organized Romney build roads using the 1.5 billion dollars he asked from the government

Again it looks like Romney did it. With out Romney approaching the government the government would never have been involved. yet you call me a liar. You seem to thrive on that word without thinking.
Its the same as any business owner who ask for help. Also keep in mind the roads were already there and he pays taxes for that service but it was not the government who build that business. All they did was provide a service that hes paid for and nothing more.. That business owner did all his own research on what he needed to get the job done not the government. that business owner coordinated pulling it all together and making it work not the government. Its obvious you nor didlo have ever ran your own business it you really think the government did it for you....
Caught you again....Romney is a hypocrite and so all of his ilk who just wants him elected even though he is not the first choice of conservatives.

Romney loves to criticize Obama with his business comment and here he is claiming credit for the olympics but not saying that he ask for government help in the tune of 1.5 billion dollars. He then gave part of it to his rich Utah developer friends by building roads along their property to raise its value.

Everbody reading this all of this can be found at motherjones.com. Even John Mc Cain criticize Romney for the government bail out he asked the federal government.

Obama is right. You didn't do it on your own. Government had some role on it one way or the other. Ask Romney he knows it well....:)

Namgulfvet....lol....what's the matter your candidate got expose with his hypocrisy.

Read all about this at motherjones.com You could also read how Romney deducted 15,000.00 in tax deduction to transport his wife's horse as a business expense. The horse was not a business expense but for personal use. See how out of touch romney is...he hires 15,000.00 worth of transportation to transport the horse itself.....lol....isn't a horse a form of transportation already ? lol
#9484
namngulfvet wrote:Romney asked help from the government.

You fall flat in your face again NamgulfVet...


THEMISSION You cant have it both ways there dude. you say the government did it yet you also said Romney did it. Which is it. Looks to me like Romney spearheaded it and got the government to help out in both cases. Bottom line is Romney did it.

Did you know that when the Winter Olympics in Utah was organized Romney build roads using the 1.5 billion dollars he asked from the government

Again it looks like Romney did it. With out Romney approaching the government the government would never have been involved. yet you call me a liar. You seem to thrive on that word without thinking.
Its the same as any business owner who ask for help. Also keep in mind the roads were already there and he pays taxes for that service but it was not the government who build that business. All they did was provide a service that hes paid for and nothing more.. That business owner did all his own research on what he needed to get the job done not the government. that business owner coordinated pulling it all together and making it work not the government. Its obvious you nor didlo have ever ran your own business it you really think the government did it for you....

Read motherjones.com and it will prove that the businesses that Romney used as an example of doing it on their own without government help turns out they availed of government loan and CONTRACTS for their business....lol....one auto repair shop that Romney used as an example turns out got a state loan in Massachusetts. Also the person he used in the ad to insult Obama for his business comment availed of government contracts....lol....they all lied .....so pathetic....

motherjones.com to counteract with FACTS the republican lies.

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