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Trump and Republicans save Obamacare!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:54 pm
by elklindo69
WASHINGTON — Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., and Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., on Tuesday announced a deal to stabilize Obamacare markets that the president has tentatively blessed. Republicans are selling the plan as a stopgap measure to stabilize individual markets for two years as they muster the votes to repeal and replace the law entirely.

The deal would restore billions of dollars in cost-sharing reduction payments to insurers that the president announced last week he would no longer make, prompting concerns of steep premium hikes in the individual markets.

It would also allow states to sell stripped-down “catastrophic” or copper plans to anyone, not just people under 30 as allowed under current law, according to Alexander. The deal would allow “many more states” to qualify for waivers that give them some flexibility in what plans they sell on their exchanges, though exactly how is still unclear.

And, in a boon to Democrats, the deal restores more than $100 million in Obamacare enrollment outreach funds stripped by Trump. Those funds would be distributed as grants to states.

At the White House, President Trump gave his blessing to the emerging agreement but emphasized that it would be “a short-term deal” on the road to shifting health care spending to block grants awarded to the states.

Re: Trump and Republicans save Obamacare!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:03 pm
by johnforbes
The problem is this -- Obamacare was always a mess and always doomed.

Then the subsidies, they were never legal (from the House).

So what can be done?

Lamar Alexander is essentially a Democrat, and of course Democrats are Democrats, so it is difficult to discern any victory for Repubs in this.

If any state which wanted a waiver could get one, that would in itself almost repeal Obamacare de facto.

Re: Trump and Republicans save Obamacare!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:01 pm
by sillydaddy
Well...what happened here is the Demos saw a real threat to Obamacare....and
decided to at least put a patch on it for the time being and slow the dismantling....
They are gambling that the Republicans will never have the votes to repeal it..... :o

Re: Trump and Republicans save Obamacare!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:17 pm
by Clownkicker
"gambling"? :lol:

You call that gambling? To be gambling there would need to be some chance that they could actually do it. :lol:

Re: Trump and Republicans save Obamacare!!!

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:56 am
by sillydaddy
To be gambling there would need to be some chance that they could actually do it.
In politics nothing is a sure thing......just ask Hillary! :)

Re: Trump and Republicans save Obamacare!!!

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:44 am
by johnforbes
It now looks like Trump may not do what Lamar wanted.

If Lamar Alexander wants it, then that means it is pro-Democrat and iffy.

So far, the House has NEVER appropriated money for these payoffs to insurance outfits.

Re: Trump and Republicans save Obamacare!!!

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:22 pm
by sillydaddy
The insurance companies are not going to give a break in premiums to anyone.....
The subsidies make it look that way to those that sign up..

The old saying always applies.." The Government can not give you anything.
it doesn't first take from someone else... :o