- Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:02 pm
#621
Like most of you, I see what is happening here, and I question what I read...
For those of you who haven't been around since day one, here is a VW history lesson..
I have been a VW viewer since the third day after VW was born. Back in the 90's, there was a voyeur site called Five Eyes, and Igor copied that site. Voyeurweb sprang to life. It was ONE simple page. One to three photo sets were posted each day, and every one of them were voyeur photos... mostly upskirts, some window peeping and dressing room shots. All the photos had been taken by IGOR, the site was owned and run by Igor..
Quickly, people began sending Igor their own voyeur photos and Igor started posting them. He would post funny comments on each photo and the site steadily grew. At some point, he did "live" voyeur posting by traveling around, coming online and posting voyeuristic photos from his current location. He tried to do live video, but the technology was so new that it only worked for a couple of minutes before the server crashed. He claimed to drive a beat up old Jeep and he even posted photos of it. At that point, the only content on the site was voyeur photos. There was no voting and no prize money. It was all for fun.
Once user photos began to be posted, the usual arguments began.. some were accused of "faking" voyeur photos and posting photos of their wives. Some photos were obviously staged.... Thus was born the "private shots" area of the site - a place for posed photos of wives and girlfriends. At this point, the only person commenting on contris, and running the site was Igor. The only email address associated with the site was gori@voyeurweb.com. The site produced no income, thus had no value. There was NO reason for any "company" to own it. Igor claimed to be a software salesman who ran the site as a hobby.
The "eye" logo you see here? It was created by a viewer of the site. Igor held a contest and people sent in logos.. the "Eye" won. Viewership steadily grew and bandwidth costs were getting higher and higher, so a banner clicking system was installed. To encourage viewers to click the banners, Igor would hide a contri behind a banner each day. This lasted about a year..At the same time, people started sending more and more explicit photos. Blurring of photos was tried, but people complained. Thus, another contest was held - Igor needed a name for the new explicit site. Redclouds was born.
The money started flowing in. Igor had struck gold. He chatted with us, he answered emails. He posted photos of his new Porsche. He started giving away money for monthly section winners....He owned the site. Or at least he claimed he did and there was no reason to disbelieve him. There were several VW get togethers... a party at Key West, Igor was there. It was broadcast live via webcams. This happened every year for several years. Most all of the regular contributors were there.. everyone knew him.
The live webcam broadcasts led to Igor's next brainstorm... creating and opening Da House. It was a rented home in Tampa Florida that was full of nude girls. Girls on cam 24/7, and they would each chat with viewers. Igor carried cams around the house and gave us virtual tours. Da House lasted about a year, then abruptly shut down. Rumors said the local zoning commission did it... others said the girls got out of hand. One girl, named Ally, sort of rebelled and started her own site. According to her, Igor owned and ran the whole shebang, but at some point, sold Da House to some middle eastern investors. Veiwers of Da House webcams actually saw these guys walking around the house and chatted with girls while they were there.
This is where I think ownership of VW changed. It is nothing but a pure guess on my part, but right around this time there was a change. Igor rarely communicated with viewers anymore and when he did, he was often an angry guy. Voyeurweb had changed and so had Igor.
The next addition was either Homeclips or Funbags.com, I can't recall which came first.
Igor never was a nice guy. He started out as a guy who liked to look up women's skirts and sneak photos.. he even posted instructions on how to do this. During the first years of this site, his comments on the photos were usually very funny, but extremely harsh. In some weird way, this contributed to the popularity of the site. If a woman in the photos was heavy, he would accuse her of eating too much and tell her to lay off the burgers. If she had sagging breasts he would call them "sad-o-baggos"..and laugh about how her boobs pointed directly to the center of the earth. Viewers complained about his comments so much that he finally stopped commenting and got others to do it. Regardless..VW was a success, so copycat sites sprang to life and many of them experienced cyber attacks. Igor bragged about it on VW and called them copyrats. Like I said, he wasn't a nice guy at all.
I think this latest chapter is terrible. This site has been a lot of fun over the years. I plan to stick with VW, no matter who is running it.. and I encourage you to do the same.
If you have any history questions, feel free to ask. I've been here a long, long time.
For those of you who haven't been around since day one, here is a VW history lesson..
I have been a VW viewer since the third day after VW was born. Back in the 90's, there was a voyeur site called Five Eyes, and Igor copied that site. Voyeurweb sprang to life. It was ONE simple page. One to three photo sets were posted each day, and every one of them were voyeur photos... mostly upskirts, some window peeping and dressing room shots. All the photos had been taken by IGOR, the site was owned and run by Igor..
Quickly, people began sending Igor their own voyeur photos and Igor started posting them. He would post funny comments on each photo and the site steadily grew. At some point, he did "live" voyeur posting by traveling around, coming online and posting voyeuristic photos from his current location. He tried to do live video, but the technology was so new that it only worked for a couple of minutes before the server crashed. He claimed to drive a beat up old Jeep and he even posted photos of it. At that point, the only content on the site was voyeur photos. There was no voting and no prize money. It was all for fun.
Once user photos began to be posted, the usual arguments began.. some were accused of "faking" voyeur photos and posting photos of their wives. Some photos were obviously staged.... Thus was born the "private shots" area of the site - a place for posed photos of wives and girlfriends. At this point, the only person commenting on contris, and running the site was Igor. The only email address associated with the site was gori@voyeurweb.com. The site produced no income, thus had no value. There was NO reason for any "company" to own it. Igor claimed to be a software salesman who ran the site as a hobby.
The "eye" logo you see here? It was created by a viewer of the site. Igor held a contest and people sent in logos.. the "Eye" won. Viewership steadily grew and bandwidth costs were getting higher and higher, so a banner clicking system was installed. To encourage viewers to click the banners, Igor would hide a contri behind a banner each day. This lasted about a year..At the same time, people started sending more and more explicit photos. Blurring of photos was tried, but people complained. Thus, another contest was held - Igor needed a name for the new explicit site. Redclouds was born.
The money started flowing in. Igor had struck gold. He chatted with us, he answered emails. He posted photos of his new Porsche. He started giving away money for monthly section winners....He owned the site. Or at least he claimed he did and there was no reason to disbelieve him. There were several VW get togethers... a party at Key West, Igor was there. It was broadcast live via webcams. This happened every year for several years. Most all of the regular contributors were there.. everyone knew him.
The live webcam broadcasts led to Igor's next brainstorm... creating and opening Da House. It was a rented home in Tampa Florida that was full of nude girls. Girls on cam 24/7, and they would each chat with viewers. Igor carried cams around the house and gave us virtual tours. Da House lasted about a year, then abruptly shut down. Rumors said the local zoning commission did it... others said the girls got out of hand. One girl, named Ally, sort of rebelled and started her own site. According to her, Igor owned and ran the whole shebang, but at some point, sold Da House to some middle eastern investors. Veiwers of Da House webcams actually saw these guys walking around the house and chatted with girls while they were there.
This is where I think ownership of VW changed. It is nothing but a pure guess on my part, but right around this time there was a change. Igor rarely communicated with viewers anymore and when he did, he was often an angry guy. Voyeurweb had changed and so had Igor.
The next addition was either Homeclips or Funbags.com, I can't recall which came first.
Igor never was a nice guy. He started out as a guy who liked to look up women's skirts and sneak photos.. he even posted instructions on how to do this. During the first years of this site, his comments on the photos were usually very funny, but extremely harsh. In some weird way, this contributed to the popularity of the site. If a woman in the photos was heavy, he would accuse her of eating too much and tell her to lay off the burgers. If she had sagging breasts he would call them "sad-o-baggos"..and laugh about how her boobs pointed directly to the center of the earth. Viewers complained about his comments so much that he finally stopped commenting and got others to do it. Regardless..VW was a success, so copycat sites sprang to life and many of them experienced cyber attacks. Igor bragged about it on VW and called them copyrats. Like I said, he wasn't a nice guy at all.
I think this latest chapter is terrible. This site has been a lot of fun over the years. I plan to stick with VW, no matter who is running it.. and I encourage you to do the same.
If you have any history questions, feel free to ask. I've been here a long, long time.