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#78890
Clown, come on.

You know what a mechanic's lien is.

And you know what a nightmare any general contractor has trying to get tradesmen to show up for a job and get a given job done.

You know any large construction project involves a struggle to cajole, beg, or threaten subcontractors to do the necessary.

The very fact that Trump has been so successful in such a demanding business (in NY, no less) is proof of his executive ability.
#78892
The very fact that Trump has been so successful in such a demanding business (in NY, no less) is proof of his executive ability.
Exactly! Trump has already pointed out public schools should be year round and teacher's made full time employees instead of just 6 months out of the year. Thousands of public schools sit empty much of the year due to extended holidays, summer break and 9-3 hours. It takes 3 months to bring kids back up to where they were before summer break and then the extended holidays start. Then there's the dead weight of non performing teachers and insane amount of teachers not in the class room and "staffers" that need to be cut. This explains why we spend more per student but have the least educated students in the developed world.

CNN got owned talking about Trumps' taxes just as I just owned clown. ;)
#78894
johnforbes, come on.

You know you and RealTool were here repeatedly bitching about how 47% of the U.S. population was paying no income tax and that you thought that was completely unacceptable.

Now you are actually here claiming it's perfectly fine for Trump to pay no Federal income tax because he is rich and it is perfectly legal for rich people not to pay Federal income tax. And you do it unabashedly.

That it is also perfectly legal for low income people not to pay Federal income tax makes no difference to you.
You are still upset at poor people but not at rich people for doing exactly the same thing; taking legal deductions.
Those poor people also pay lots of other taxes the same as Trump does (sales tax, property tax, gas tax, etc.)
But again, you use that as a mitigating excuse for Trump but ignore it as an excuse for poor people who pay a much higher percentage of their income in taxes.

How does a hypocrite like you manage to swallow your food each day without choking on it?
#78895
How does a hypocrite like you manage to swallow your food each day without choking on it?
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. The 53% of who pay all the Federal income taxes have always called for tax reform so everyone pays their fair share. Flat taxes is the only solution. Now clown, don't you feel silly! Once again you bit hook line and sinker. ;)
#78896
But you are here saying it's okay for Trump. He's part of the 47% you hate so much but you're apologizing for him and despising the poor.

As one of the 53% you should be just as upset with Trump as you are with all the poor people Bush put out of work.

Now don't you feel silly?
#78898
Come on, Clown, there are two different discussions here.

Trump himself has said the tax code needs to be fixed.

We all agree on that, though we don't agree on how.

Meanwhile, it is absolutely totally moral and proper for anybody to take any deduction or depreciation allowed.

Bill Clinton deducted his used underwear. None of us here would do that. But he did, and it was not improper under the law.
#78900
Bill Clinton deducted his used underwear.
Another fact libtards pretend doesn't matter. Trump missed an opportunity during the debate when Hillary complained about his deductions to ask how much she and Bubba deducted for their used underwear. She would have soiled that white pants suit.
#78906
Nobody is blaming Trump for taking legal deductions, dimwit.
They're complaining that he's a hypocrite for bitching about the national debt and blaming Clinton and Obama when he's one of the guys actually responsible for it. He hasn't supported his country in 20 years.

And his solution to the debt? Give even more tax breaks to himself and the super wealthy while he balloons the debt by $10 trillion dollars.

You actually support that insanity, johnny? Seriously?
The guy who is always bitching about "spending like a drunken sailor"?

Don't you have any criticism whatsoever for a guy proposing an additional $10 trillion without anything at all to show for it, just richer rich people?
What do you say about a guy who wants to balloon the debt because he simply doesn't want to ever pay a nickel to help support his country, even when he's dead?
#78907
You could take all the billionaires in America, and have them pay at higher tax rates, and it wouldn't do anything of any consequence to reduce the TRILLIONS in debt.

The Clintons are worth 200 million, so what amount did they give to reduce the national debt.

You can still send it, not to the old Public Debt, but to the new Fiscal Service. The address is in Parkersburg, WV.

Trump has given a year and 1/2 of his time, plus over 100 million dollars, to this campaign.

The Clintons have given none of their time because they are professional politicians, and they have simply extorted money like the 12 million Hillary got from Morocco.

“No matter what happens, she will be in Morocco hosting CGI [Clinton Global Initiative] on May 5-7, 2015. Her presence was a condition for the Moroccans to proceed so there is no going back on this,” top Clinton aide Huma Abedin wrote to campaign manager Robby Mook in a November 2014 email revealed by Wiki­***.
#78912
"You could take all the billionaires in America, and have them pay at higher tax rates, and it wouldn't do anything of any consequence to reduce the TRILLIONS in debt."-johnforbes

And THAT's your idiotic excuse for Trump and other rich people not contributing ANYTHING to the Federal government as they bitch about how big the debt is? It's OK with you that he pays nothing but you remain upset at the rest of the 47% for not contributing because they are poor? That's not just hypocritical, it's evil. You want to squeeze money from poor people but give rich people a pass who can actually afford to pay their fair share.
Either be upset at ALL of them or NONE of them, but stop making a fool of yourself, johnny.

"The Clintons are worth 200 million, so what amount did they give to reduce the national debt."-johnforbes

I think their tax return said they gave 11% of their income to reduce the national debt. Trump gave 0%.
You get two guesses to figure out who gave more, dimwit

"Trump has given a year and 1/2 of his time, plus over 100 million dollars, to this campaign."-johnforbes

Yes, you admit it, Trump has given NOTHING to support the Federal government.
That money was and time was spent on himself. He gets no points for that, dummy.
Criminy, johnny, listen to your dishonest mewling about how rich people who contribute nothing to our government are such a boon to the rest of us. Just stop it already. You're humiliating yourself.
#78913
"Glad we can agree on that clown. If just the rest of libtards could mature to that point."-RealTool

Now if just the rest of you hypocritical conservatards could mature to the point of being upset at Trump's freeloading.

Then we would all be in agreement.
By Grog
#78925
Really? Donald's tax return of '95 showed, proved, left no doubt he's one a them 47 percenters Romney warned you folks about that got no skin in the game.

When that news reaches Moosebowel, Alaska, Mrs. Palin will be might angry at Mr. Donald. :lol:
#78934
When Peter Jennings (one of Grog's fellow Cannuckistanians) was still above room temperature he was working a cute little scam. He kept a phone booth sized apartment in Toronto while actually living in New York. This exploited a loophole in both countries tax codes that allowed him to pay no taxes in either country.

This illustrates the duplicity of the citizens of the frozen tundra of Moose Turds, Can-a-duh.

But Grog, as a citizen of that forlorn, bankrupt and failed country, has no vote here and his opinion doesn't matter.
#78942
^^^^^^^ See? Now Insipid is calling not paying federal income tax being "duplicitous"....but only when it is anybody but Trump or some other mega-rich guy. He refuses to call Trump duplicitous for doing exactly the same thing.

Both guys are taking legal deductions, but the guy he doesn't like is supposed to be "working a cute little scam" for doing it but his guy is some kind of business genius for doing it.
And Loser Boy Insipid is so stupid he can't even see he's doing it, even after it is pointed out to him.

Fucking dishonest hypocrites, the lot of you.
#78946
Businesses have to be allowed to write off some expenses, libtards don't understand the concept that an operation can't operate in the negative like the government does. Plus it's those businesses that employee the people who pay the money the government spends.

For private taxes the way to go is a flat tax, some estimate that would be around 8%, so federal taxes would drop significantly for those in the middle class who don't have the deductions those in the upper class have, those deductions would be taken away. No more cheating on federal taxes, even Al Sharpton would have to start paying his. If you spend money, the tax is taken at that time. We could cut the IRS by 80% saving billions, we would collect 100's of billions in taxes now being avoided through fraud or just refusing to pay them. You have only a small amount of money to spend you only pay a small amount of taxes, you live a rich life style, you pay a lot. Everyone pays their fair share.
#78947
"And Loser Boy Insipid is so stupid he can't even see he's doing it, even after it is pointed out to him."-Me

And I predicted the future once again.
It's like I'm psychic. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dance for us some more, Loser Boy. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
#78954
Trillions in debt.

You could take all the billionaires in America, and have them pay at higher tax rates, and it wouldn't do anything of any consequence to reduce the TRILLIONS in debt.

The Clintons are worth 200 million, so what amount did they give to reduce the national debt.

You can still send it, not to the old Public Debt, but to the new Fiscal Service. The address is in Parkersburg, WV.

Trump has given a year and 1/2 of his time, plus over 100 million dollars, to this campaign.

The Clintons have given none of their time because they are professional politicians, and they have simply extorted money like the 12 million Hillary got from Morocco.

“No matter what happens, she will be in Morocco hosting CGI [Clinton Global Initiative] on May 5-7, 2015. Her presence was a condition for the Moroccans to proceed so there is no going back on this,” top Clinton aide Huma Abedin wrote to campaign manager Robby Mook in a November 2014 email revealed by Wiki­***.
#78960
It's happening on every network, they invite Trump supporters on and attempt to ambush them and the Trump supporters end up owning the interview and expose the talking heads for lying and misleading assholes they are. It's not suppose to be like that, Trump supporters are suppose to just take it, after all it's not polite to call out the media for their lies on live television. What the hell has gotten into Trump supporters? the media is being rocked to their core and the more they try and fight back the more their bias is exposed. It's really bad when the media is willing to out right lie to try and sway votes. After this is all over the media will be more hated and mistrusted than politicians.
#78967
One thing is for sure, half the country will be feeling pretty lousy on Nov 9th.

If Hillary does manage to slither in with the help of the dishonest mainstream media, she will have to hope the FBI and DoJ remain under tight control because the Clinton Foundation is the biggest example of public corruption in American history.

Teapot Dome, Watergate, these were tiny and petty compared...
#78968
Thankfully there are Federal taxes on importing Chinese steel for your American buildings, right?...

SHANGHAI — As New Yorkers emotionally debate what kind of memorial should honor those killed in the Sept. 11 World Trade Center attack, 50,000 tons of mangled metal from the twin towers have been sold and shipped to China as scrap.....

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