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#62004
Remarks on the Nuclear Agreement With North Korea

October 18, 1994

Good afternoon. I am pleased that the United States and North Korea yesterday reached agreement on the text of a framework document on North Korea's nuclear program. This agreement will help to achieve a longstanding and vital American objective: an end to the threat of nuclear proliferation on the Korean Peninsula.

This agreement is good for the United States, good for our allies, and good for the safety of the entire world. It reduces the danger of the threat of nuclear spreading in the region. It's a crucial step toward drawing North Korea into the global community.

I want to begin by thanking Secretary Christopher and our chief negotiator, Ambassador at Large Bob Gallucci, for seeing these negotiations through. I asked Bob if he'd had any sleep, since he's going to answer all your technical questions about this agreement, and he said that he had had some sleep. So be somewhat gentle with him. After meeting with my chief national security advisers, and at their unanimous recommendation, I am instructing Ambassador Gallucci to return to Geneva on Friday for the purpose of signing an agreement.

The United States has been concerned about the possibility that North Korea was developing nuclear weapons since the 1980's. Three administrations have tried to bring this nuclear program under international control. There is nothing more important to our security and to the world's stability than preventing the spread of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. And the United States has an unshakeable commitment to protect our ally and our fellow democracy South Korea. Thirty-eight thousand American troops stationed on the Peninsula are the guarantors of that commitment.

Today, after 16 months of intense and difficult negotiations with North Korea, we have completed an agreement that will make the United States, the Korean Peninsula, and the world safer. Under the agreement, North Korea has agreed to freeze its existing nuclear program and to accept international inspection of all existing facilities.

This agreement represents the first step on the road to a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula. It does not rely on trust. Compliance will be certified by the International Atomic Energy Agency. The United States and North Korea have also agreed to ease trade restrictions and to move toward establishing liaison offices in each other's capitals. These offices will ease North Korea's isolation.

From the start of the negotiations, we have consulted closely with South Korea, with Japan, and with other interested parties. We will continue to work closely with our allies and with the Congress as our relationship with North Korea develops.

Throughout this administration, the fight against the spread of nuclear weapons has been among our most important international priorities, and we've made great progress toward removing nuclear weapons from Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and from Belarus. Nuclear weapons in Russia are no longer targeted on our citizens. Today all Americans should know that as a result of this achievement on Korea, our Nation will be safer and the future of our people more secure.

Now I'd like to ask Ambassador Gallucci to come up and make a statement and answer your questions.
#62013
Some have said Kerry thought he could get a Nobel Peace Prize and use it to seek the presidency.

But long ago it should have been obvious that the U.S. got NOTHING from the Iran deal and Iran got EVERYTHING it wanted.

So the U.S. gave 150 billion to the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and will help it along the path to nuclear weapons.

This is madness.
#62014
1994- President Clinton "This agreement represents the first step on the road to a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula. It does not rely on trust. Compliance will be certified by the International Atomic Energy Agency"
Korea rapidly developed nuclear weapons after signing the agreement...and they didn't even receive $150 Billion dollars to help them do it as Iran will.
2015- President Obama "This agreement represents the first step on the road to a nuclear-free Iran. It does not rely on trust. Compliance will be certified by the International Atomic Energy Agency"
#62016
"Korea rapidly developed nuclear weapons after signing the agreement..."-RealTool

Geezus, Tool, don't you even bother to think before you pull this stupid shit out of your ass?
It took N.Korea 11 years to get the nukes after the agreement was signed, and they only did it after the agreement was no longer in force. 11 years is not "rapidly".
Iran could have nukes in 3 months without an agreement.
There's nothing anyone can really do about it short of starting a regional war. (That's the only conservative default plan.)
If this Iran deal delays their nuke development by 10 years, it's worth it.
#62019
There's an agenda here for sure....if there was ever any doubt it was made perfectly clear when Obama

told us that he was going to reopen relations with Cuba....because 50 years of sanctions were not working ???

Of course...they are working...Havana is totally dark most nights and imports into Cuba are almost non-existent!

When Kerry went to Havana to open the US embassy and made his speech about Cuba being better off as a

democracy...The Cuban Foreign Minister told him to worry about his own country....

and then demanded we remove all sanctions and give back Gitmo.

Obama made no real demands.....not even for the return of millions of dollars worth of American properties.
#62021
Iran could have nukes in 3 months without an agreement
Now they'll have $150 Billion to buy delivery systems for those nukes and set up missile defense batteries, they've already ordered 150 new fighter jets on the IOU backed up by Obama. Do you libtards really think Iran's own inspectors are going to rat on Iran?

Obama did for Iran exactly what Clinton did for North Korea, guarantee they'll have nukes by signing a worthless piece of paper that gives them everything and we receive nothing in return but a promise to kill us.
#62026
"Now they'll have $150 Billion to buy delivery systems for those nukes and set up missile defense batteries, they've already ordered 150 new fighter jets on the IOU backed up by Obama."-RealTool

RealTool would rather keep Iran vulnerable to an ISIL takeover.
He is dismayed because his wish is to attack Iran and start another war in the region.

Like I said, the conservative default plan.
Of course, another war in the region is not in U.S. interests.
The Tool doesn't get that and doesn't care anyway.
"Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out later" Right Tool?
#62029
RealTool would rather keep Iran vulnerable to an ISIL takeover.
Iran doesn't need nukes or anti missile batteries to defend themselves from ISIL, plus Iran is more a threat to the United States than ISIL is, because Iran is a country who has promised to wipe us off of the map and soon they will have the weapons to strike our soil.
#62031
Tool, you're making up stupid shit again.

You don't know they're going to spend the money on anything that can threaten us.
And this deal may delay their acquisition of nukes for a decade.
And the fighter jets will allow them to defend themselves against ISIL, which we want them to do. If they fight ISIL for us, we don't have to.

Also, Iran, whether you like it or not, is a stable government. ISIL doesn't recognize ANY government.
Who is going to be more difficult to deal with?
You saw what happens when your guy took out the stable government in Iraq and left a power vacuum. You really want to make that idiotic mistake again?
#62054
Anyone who believes that Iran even paused in their development of a nuclear weapon long enough for a drink of water or to take a breath of air is truly a Useful Idiot and an Obozo Kool-Ade guzzler of the first order.

But we already knew that.

If this idiotic Iran deal goes through look for Israel (with enthusiastic Saudi support) to pull the trigger shortly after.

Then Obozo will get up off his knees, wipe the Ayatollah jizz off his chin, tell Kerry he can stop tickling the Ayatolla's balls, and declare war on Israel.
#62059
If this idiotic Iran deal goes through look for Israel (with enthusiastic Saudi support) to pull the trigger shortly after.
Israel had better attack them before Obama give them the $150 Billion, they've already ordered hundreds of fighter jets, rockets and missile defense weapons, Russia and China are just waiting on payment before delivery.
#62101
Clown, your own article agrees Iran will be receiving an injection of at least $150 Billion. The articles argument that $150 Billion isn't a lot of money is insane. The agreement also allows them to start exporting oil and import weapons. So Clown tell us what we get from the deal except a promised from Iran that they will continue their nuke deal and kill us?
#62102
Tool, elklindo's article says it's $100 billion, you idiot.

"The U.S. Treasury Department estimates the value of Iran’s foreign currency reserves at $100 billion. An article in Foreign Policy magazine cited $120 billion. We don’t know where Dermer got $150 billion.
The Institute of International Finance, a trade association representing banks, insurance companies and other financial entities worldwide, ran its own numbers and settled on $100 billion.

I understand that you can't read English, but numbers are pretty universal.
"100" means "one hundred".

That you think they can or will spend it all instead of holding most of it for foreign exchange needs is stupid.
That is, it's par for the course with you.
#62105
johnforbes wrote:Elkin, surely you don't favor this nutty Iran deal?

How can any American citizen favor a deal in which America gets nothing, but the globe's largest state sponsor of terrorism gets everything it wants?
Bullshit!!! That's a straw man argument.

So what was America supposed to get from the Iranians from the negotiations? Trump claims it's a shitty deal...fair enough, but never explains why? DUH!

The neocons claimed the same when Raygun signed arms control agreement with the Soviets. Then they praised conservatism for the defeat of the soviets, by advocating policies they themselves opposed...
#62127
I have spoken to John's Chief of Staff and attempted to convey your concerns.

For now, let it suffice to say:

The Iran deal is insanely bad.

The U.S. gives Iran 150 billion (which will surely be used to fund terrorism against the West), and America gets nothing from the deal.

This is one of the very dumbest "deals" in policy history.
#62130
Forbestardo claims America gets nothing, so what was America supposed to get?

Trump knows, he'll be having a press conference with a list of demands that weren't met, and will kick out any reporter who dares to question any of his foreign policy proposals, aka Hoax news talking points...
#62190
Trivia is trivia.

If it were crucial, it would be called something else.

I merely responded to Elkin's suggestion that his brainpower was comparable to others here.

Elkin seems like a nice enough young chap, but nobody he could score much above room temperature on an IQ test.
#62281
Here we see johnforbes supports Iran acquiring nukes in three months instead of having inspections by the IAEA to delay that event.

One can only conclude he supports another regional war to kill more Americans there.

What a perverse position for an American to take.
#62286
Here we see johnforbes supports Iran acquiring nukes in three months instead of having inspections by the IAEA to delay that event
Giving Iran $150 Billion, allowing technology imports and weapon systems doesn't delay, it expedites Iran not only getting nukes but delivering them. Iran was drowning in their ambitions to exterminate us, Obama rescued them. The big question is why?
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