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By snakeoil
#58440
Memorial Day is the day we pay homage to those who served and gave their life for their country. But...

1. 212,337 homeless veterans are between the ages of 19 to 30. 144,842 of them are in shelters. (As of 2011)
2. Homelessness among women veterans has increased 141% between 2004 to 2010.
3. The divorce rate is 84% among returning veterans.
4.The VA is treating 210, 000 veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan for blast-related brain injury.
5. 89% of homeless vets received an honorable discharge.

Don't we owe these vets more than that?
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By RealJustme
#58444
Don't we owe these vets more than that?
Under Obama Vets are less important than illegals which explains why an illegal gets faster and better treatment than our Vets, plus as you pointed out we have thousands of Vets who are forced to sleep on the streets while illegals are all given housing and food.

It's time to treat our Vets as good as we do our illegals, that would be vast improvement.
By snakeoil
#58452
The death of as many as 40 patients allegedly waiting for care at a Phoenix VA hospital has sparked outrage and led to the resignation of Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki.
Don't kill our troops; our country will do it for you.
By snakeoil
#58453
Once again Justme decides to jump in with his sick obsession about Obama and his half-baked "facts." How about the torrential rains and flooding in Texas and Colorado; did Obama cause that?
But according to VA inspector general reports and other documents that have gone overlooked in the current firestorm, federal officials knew about the scheme at the heart of the scandal—falsifying VA records to cover up treatment delays—years before Obama became president. VA officials first learned of the problems in 2005, when George W. Bush was entering his second term, and the problems went unfixed for the duration of his presidency.
To a lesser extent this problem with the VA hospitals started after the Korean "police Action." After the Viet Nam War the problem was easy to sweep under the rug as people were against the war and the press wrote about the My Lai incident everyday. Returning vets were something to be forgotten and the problems with the VA escalated. The problem is not Obama's problem. The problem is with our politicians who try to pick a new war every year and then forget to take care of the injured (mentally and physically) veterans injured in those conflicts. Our foreign policies since WW II leave a lot to be desired also. Look at the huge amount of military hardware that is now in the hands of ISIS because the Iraqi Army runs at the first gunshot from ISIS. A huge amount of military hardware is now in the hands of the Yemani rebels also. I would be hard-pressed to explain our foreign policy to someone from another country.

Justme, you have to get over the fact that we have a black President. You don't have to like Obama but please show the office of the Presidency that respect that it requires. I feel that you are fast wearing out your welcome on this site with your insane rants about Obama and his family. Go ahead and debate his policies but not his everyday conversations and events as I am sure you are not privy to the intelligence and briefings that the White House gets every hour. I must remind you that any President can do nothing unless Congress gives him the money to do so.

Remember, you are venting your opinions on a porn site that has little or no relevance to the rest of the world. Very few people in the world will read or here about your opinions. You are not going to change the world or even slightly influence 99.999999999999% of the rest of the world with your opinions on this porn site.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
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By RealJustme
#58460
You are not going to change the world or even slightly influence 99.999999999999% of the rest of the world with your opinions on this porn site.
You wasted a lot of calories giving us your opinions on this thread, so please don't lecture the rest of us for expressing ours. It is a fact that our present government is giving illegals housing and food while doing nothing for the thousands of homeless Vets. Homeless Vets should at least be given the same rights to housing and food as illegals.

Remember real heroes don't wear capes, they wear dog tags, they deserve to be the #1 priority of our government but they're not.

So Snake give us your opinion as to why I shouldn't be expressing mine. You don't have to write another book dude, be short and concise.
By snakeoil
#58489
Taking a break from my vacation to respond to Justme. Justme, you have a perfect right to your opinions and the right to express them. But, don't be offended when someone calls you out for being wrong and for twisting the truth. I despise when board members take a thread and sink to lambasting other members for their posts, Often the threads just become worthless use of bandwidth. Rather than sink to that level I want to state my own political philosophy so you know where I stand.

As I stated before, I am a registered Republican and have been heavily involved in politics in the past. I detest where my party has gone in recent years. I believe in fiscal responsibility, getting the most bang for the buck, spending money on our infrastructure for the greater good of the citizens and business, spending our tax money on social programs when necessary but with sunset provisions or shared financial input, sensible spending on our military (he F-35 Joint Strike Fighter can not fly in cloudy weather http://www.alternet.org/fail-400-billio ... dy-weather" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;,) FAIR trade pacts that protect USA business and open world markets to American business, A sane tax law that provides for the needs of the government, wars and governmental programs must be paid for except in a national emergency.

I believe in helping business to flourish, which creates jobs, but cut the purse strings when they can stand on their own. This help, if possible, should be in the form of loans that must be repaid over time. I feel that business should be regulated against anti-competition, harmful products, environmental harm, harmful worker conditions and price gouging. I am against subsidies for businesses that are sound and making profits. We must realize that some businesses will become unnecessary over time (Conestoga wagons) and we should let them die, not subsidize them. I do not believe that government should ever have an equity position in any company. I do not believe that corporations are people. the premise for that argument is that since corporations are owned by people the corporation is the shareholders. I own my car; is my car a person?

I believe that man is causing great harm to our environment and we are in danger of causing great harm and even death to many citizens of the world. The seas have risen dramatically in the past 80 years and unless we become more environmentally aware many of our cities near the coasts will be swamped.

http://co2now.org/Current-CO2/CO2-Trend ... c-co2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/oce ... evel-rise/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Our military has to undergo sane changes, too many of our weapons have huge cost overruns and do not work as promised. Yet, we spend more on our military that the next six countries combined. Many of the weapons are made for political reasons not military reasons. We are building tanks and storing them in the desert to keep jobs going for a Congressman's area. I have deep reservations about today’s senior officers serving in the military. I seems that many of the skills required of an officer are missing. I listen to some of the talk coming from these officers about combat issues we are involved in and, even though I am not there, it doesn't seem plausible.

Related to the military, we must learn some diplomatic skills and stop rattling our sabres so much. Our leaders in Congress seem to want to go to war at the slightest provocation. Yet, look at our track record. If you look at it openly, we haven't have a clear victory since WW II. Even then, we couldn't have achieved a victory in Europe as fast without the help of the Russians. There seems to be this idea in Congress that war is glorious, it isn't. War should be the last resort and Congress should be the ones who decide whether we go to war or not. I have reservations about the war powers we have given the the office of the President but I don't know enough about the issue to comment on it knowledgeably.

Well, it seems, as Justme said, I have written a book.
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By RealJustme
#58490
Dude, I told you that you don't have to write another book, to be short and concise.

Let me show you how it's done.

Concerning what you said about businesses should also apply to our government. I disagree that man is causing the oceans to rise, nature is and there's nothing we can do to control it. I'm all for anti-pollution but don't buy into the carbon tax scam, it's just another way to raise taxes and make elites richer. The military shouldn't be forced to "learn some diplomatic skills ", their job is to kill when told to kill.

See how easy that was?
By Clownkicker
#58491
There it is^^^^^

RealJustne honestly can't tell the difference between discussion (which is what snakeoil contributed) and meaningless soundbite platitudes (which is what he contributed.)

The first provides understanding, the second provides nothing but simple-minded ignorance.
By johnforbes
#58493
There it is^^^^^

Clownslacker honestly can't tell the difference between discussion (which is what Clowndumber is incapable of) and meaningless sound bites (which he is capable of).

The first of Clownhicker's posts don't provide understanding, nor do the rest.
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By RealJustme
#58497
The first provides understanding, the second provides nothing but simple-minded ignorance.
What is it that you don't understand about my opinions? I laid them out clear and concise.

Snake on the other hand used liberal talking points while saying he's a Republican, as if that gives his longggg post validity. There a some points Snake has made in the past that I agreed with, both not these.
By snakeoil
#58498
There a some points Snake has made in the past that I agreed with, both not these.
Huh?
By snakeoil
#58503
Justme-I don't know if you really believe that man hasn't caused climate change, if you have an agenda or if it gives you a thrill to be "anti." It seems to me that the science definitely proves man's part in this. Look at the second chart on this website which shows the history of CO2 in the atmosphere based on ice core samples.

http://www.planetforlife.com/co2history/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's another one for you.

http://mashable.com/2014/05/02/april-20 ... o2-levels/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also, I didn't say that the military needs to get negotiating skills, our country needs to get better negotiating skills.
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By RealJustme
#58511
Justme-I don't know if you really believe that man hasn't caused climate change, if you have an agenda or if it gives you a thrill to be "anti." It seems to me that the science definitely proves man's part in this. Look at the second chart on this website which shows the history of CO2 in the atmosphere based on ice core samples.
All this has happened prior to man being on earth, how do you explain that? Dude, it's nature taking it's course, a weekly major solar flare on the sun has more influence on our climate than all mankind combined. How do I know that, check out the ice core samples.
By snakeoil
#58513
Justme-It is obvious that you know little about science but you insist on disputing scientists that have devoted their lives studying climate. See the little box in the second chart that says Keeling Curve. That is the measurements of CO2 in the atmosphere taken at Mauna Loa since 1958 by Dr. Keeling. That is the continuation of the studies of the ice cores. Dr. keeling is created with calling the attention to climate change.

CO2 in the atmosphere is presently about 400ppm. The previous high was 300ppm in 325,000 YBP (years before present.)

Almost every climate scientist agrees that climate change is man-made. The only dispute is the rate of change.

CO2 is increasing every year and will definitely harm the planet. There is an even greater threat though. As global warming increases, the permafrost will thaw (it is showing signs of thawing now.) When the permafrost thaws methane will be released. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.

The climate deniers in Congress and business have an agenda; climate scientists do not (except self-preservation.)
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By RealJustme
#58514
CO2 is increasing every year and will definitely harm the planet.
That's the only thing in your long rant on global warming that I somewhat agree with. Reducing any type of pollution is a good thing unless it causes more suffering than the pollution; if that were the discussion I would say yeah let's do it. What I don't agree with is the bullshit scare tactics, get rich schemes and warped statistics by those would profit. Man can't control our climate but we can do things to keep our air and water cleaner. You want to talk about decreasing pollution I'm with you, you start throwing in bullshit scare tactics by assholes using it for self gain, I'll tune you out.
By snakeoil
#58523
That's the only thing in your long rant on global warming that I somewhat agree with. Reducing any type of pollution is a good thing unless it causes more suffering than the pollution; if that were the discussion I would say yeah let's do it. What I don't agree with is the bullshit scare tactics, get rich schemes and warped statistics by those would profit. Man can't control our climate but we can do things to keep our air and water cleaner. You want to talk about decreasing pollution I'm with you, you start throwing in bullshit scare tactics by assholes using it for self gain, I'll tune you out.
To other board members:

Please read Justme's post a couple of times and tell me if you come to the same conclusion.

1. Justme agrees that CO2 is causing the earth to warm. Ergo, global warming is real.

2. CO2 emissions are pollution. Pollution is mainly caused by man. Ergo, man is causing global warming.

3. Justme thinks that we should curb pollution. Are new regulations in order? Since industry and power plants and commercial buildings are huge pollution generators, should the average tax payer pay for the enforcement mechanism to reduce pollution?

4. I don't understand what "scare tactics" Justme refers to. Is stating that global warming is causing the earth to heat up a scare tactic? Is showing pictures of glaciers melting a scare tactic? Is recording the rise in CO2 in the atmosphere a scare tactic? Is recording the sea level rise a scare tactic?

At least I am happy that Justme agrees that global warming is real and that man-made pollution is causing it.
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By RealJustme
#58536
Please read Justme's post a couple of times and tell me if you come to the same conclusion.

1. Justme agrees that CO2 is causing the earth to warm. Ergo, global warming is real.

Snake you have a reading comprehension issue. Where did I say that, please feel free to quote me. Dude that's why people discredit liberals, you warp everything to be what you want it to be, not what it is. Your mind automatically adjusted what I said to fit your agenda. Please prove me wrong by quoting me (use my words not yours)
By Clownkicker
#58539
"Where did I say that, please feel free to quote me."-RealTool

snakeoil, feel free to simply fabricate a quotation where he says what you want him to say.

It's what RealTool does to support his views, so why shouldn't you? :lol:
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By RealJustme
#58543
Please read Justme's post a couple of times and tell me if you come to the same conclusion.

1. Justme agrees that CO2 is causing the earth to warm. Ergo, global warming is real.
Snake not even Clown came to the conclusion you did. Like I said, you're so ate up on proving climate changes are caused by man you fabricate scientific information and what people say, I don't think you do it intentionally, it's just in your DNA. You actually thought I said that, then after I pointed out I didn't, you went back and are now wondering how you were so wrong. A normal person would say "Hey Carlos, I was wrong, my bad"
By snakeoil
#58544
1. Justme agrees that CO2 is causing the earth to warm. Ergo, global warming is real.

2. CO2 emissions are pollution. Pollution is mainly caused by man. Ergo, man is causing global warming.

3. Justme thinks that we should curb pollution. Are new regulations in order? Since industry and power plants and commercial buildings are huge pollution generators, should the average tax payer pay for the enforcement mechanism to reduce pollution?

4. I don't understand what "scare tactics" Justme refers to. Is stating that global warming is causing the earth to heat up a scare tactic? Is showing pictures of glaciers melting a scare tactic? Is recording the rise in CO2 in the atmosphere a scare tactic? Is recording the sea level rise a scare tactic?

At least I am happy that Justme agrees that global warming is real and that man-made pollution is causing it.

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By RealJustme
#58549
Snake, you've lost all credibility, you need to come back to life with a new nic and start over. Next time don't try and convince everyone your a good guy (Republican) when your views are far left of the Clown.
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By Malcolm
#58563
Snake, you've lost all credibility

No he hasn't...Snake has gained more street and poli board cred......
By snakeoil
#58573
I was wondering how long it would take for Justme's obsession with Obama to surface. The post started about homeless vets and then went to a discussion of climate change. How that triggered Justme's sick obsession with Obama I don't know.
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By RealJustme
#58585
The post started about homeless vets and then went to a discussion of climate change.
You always seem to steer the conversation to climate change, no matter what it starts out as, so why do you do that?
By snakeoil
#58591
You always bring up your sick obsession with Obama. Why do you do that?

One of these days you will wake up and realize that you have no idea how government works. Issues are very complicated and we are not privy to the intelligence or the make of of the studies that precede every issue the our government works on. Focus on policies and how each Congress member works for the people not events such as Obama's vacations, Michelle's sleeveless dress or the fact that Michelle planted a vegetable garden.

We know your obsession with Obama; what is your stand on the lack of a sound energy policy, a sound military build and strategy, a strategy to rebuild and improve our infrastructure, a long term plan to pay off our debt (some say it is impossible to pay off,) a sound education strategy to ensure that we stay number one in the world. See, there is plenty to talk about without obsessing about one person.

As to my statements on climate change:

https://enjeuxenergies.*************/20 ... from-coal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe they know something about climate change too. Climate change will affect their bottom line.
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By RealJustme
#58601
Maybe they know something about climate change too. Climate change will affect their bottom line.
Dude, give climate change a break. The inner city violence of Baltimore is only minutes away from your doorsteps if the grid goes out. You're 100 million times more likely to be killed by a destroyer than the ocean rising, get your priorities straight or be a low information victim.

If the grid goes out, and at some point it will, don't count on the police, they've been dumped on so they'll be home protecting their families and friends leaving you to fend on your own. At least you won't have to worry about a destroyer taking your gun from you, you don't believe in them.
By snakeoil
#58625
I don't believe in guns? I wouldn't advise trying to break into my house. I have several guns, easily within reach but out of sight. an alarm system and cameras that cover almost my entire property; even the greenhouse is alarmed. There's also a 91 pound Black Lab waiting to greet you.
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By RealJustme
#58640
I have several guns, easily within reach but out of sight. an alarm system and cameras that cover almost my entire property; even the greenhouse is alarmed. There's also a 91 pound Black Lab waiting to greet you
You sound paranoid dude. I hope you don't have children visiting your house with those guns laying all around. A alarm just tells the bad guys they have at least 15 minutes before the whole process of calls are made and then a response if any. A simple crowbar or hammer takes care of the lab, they'll use one of those guns you have laying all around on you if you happen to be home. They'll then use your guns to shot 7 year old kids and their mothers. Plus don't ever tell people your defenses.
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By RealJustme
#58650
Once again...anti everything.
You wouldn't know the difference between a shotgun and a rifle. Trying to pretend "you're cool and hip" because you claim to have weapons and security within reach, even in your sunroom, doesn't pass the bullshit meter. You cling to a cell phone for protection because you believe that's all you need to reach out to government who is our savior. When someone stuffs that cellphone up your ass you'll fault lack of funding for your savior.
By snakeoil
#58663
Straight from the Justme playbook:

When you have lost the argument and have been proved wrong again, attack.
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By RealJustme
#58675
BTW, I keep a Kimber next to my bed.
I've had a Kim in my bed but never next to it.
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